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From: Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Electrostatic actuators to move robots legs...
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:10:43 +0100
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On 15/09/2024 18:12, Nick Hayward wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 11:38:53 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
> 
>> On 15/09/2024 10:58, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 08:13:15 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/09/2024 03:49, john larkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The best thing about MK is that it's close to Oxford.
>>>>
>>>> I really must disagree. The best thing about MK is Bletchley Park.
>>>> It's more than possible that none of us would be here if it wasn't for
>>>> the activities at Station X in the early 40s.
>>>>
>>>> It's perhaps interesting to surmise that if what went on at Bletchley
>>>> Park hadn't been kept secret until the mid 70s, perhaps the new town
>>>> envisioned in the 60s would have been called "Bletchley" in honour and
>>>> recognition of what it had done to hasten the end of World War II.
>>>
>>> They've made a museum out of it and it's *very* well worth a visit.
>>
>> I visited at the end of November 2009, when it had just opened and the
>> huts were still in a pretty rough state. It was a good time to go as it
>> was a very cold day and there were few visitors. I was lucky on twos
>> counts. Firstly, we were shown round by Jean Valentine (who worked there
>> during the war and had appeared on numerous "Station X" documentaries.
>> She was one of those who entered the various settings onto the Bombe
>> machine, and then phoned the possible decryption code to the hut where
>> Turing worked. It was more-or-less next door, but she had no idea where
>> it was, not even if it was at Bletchley Park!). Secondly, I was able to
>> chat to Tony Sale for a while, as there was nobody else around. He, of
>> course, was the driving force behind rebuilding Colossus. He had spoken
>> with Tommy Flowers, who designed and built the original, and helped Sale
>> with the rebuild as almost all the original documentation had been
>> destroyed on Churchill's orders
> 
> Astounding brain power those guys had. What is it about the English that
> makes them such amazing thinkers? They're not so great when it comes to
> building things affordably and efficiently, but as conceptualists, they're
> simply unbeatable.

Brits (not just the English!) have always been good at problem solving. 
We are good at research, but not so much at development (which is where 
the money is made!). It's remarkable that at Bletchley Park three of the 
greatest problem-solvers were there at the same time. Turing for his 
work on Enigma, Bill Tutte for his work on Lorenz, and Tommy Flowers for 
computing hardware and software (it's not well known that he paid with 
money out of his own pocket for the construction of Colossus, as the 
management there did not believe in it and would not pay for it).

-- 
Jeff