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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: 4D Visualisierung Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 12:28:04 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <vc7cg3$2atht$1@dont-email.me> References: <vantta$3j6c0$1@dont-email.me> <vc58m1$1o4do$1@dont-email.me> <vc592f$1o4do$2@dont-email.me> <vc68cn$1n3i4$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 21:28:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="78a7b50be27a8595bbf19a3d12d98608"; logging-data="2455101"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18UQyxWE0ZTmVmOxkw3wStSMcJUCnZuVEQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5RwaAtMssZ1BJ9AUkCAO+BBck9U= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vc68cn$1n3i4$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2896 On 9/15/2024 2:11 AM, guido wugi wrote: > Op 15-9-2024 om 02:17 schreef Chris M. Thomasson: >> On 9/14/2024 5:10 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 8/28/2024 12:30 PM, guido wugi wrote: >>>> Hallo, >>> [...] >>> >>> This is your artificial 4d axis, right? >>> >>> https://i.ibb.co/rMqqp9k/image.png > > Exactly. I called them (x,y,z,v) here, but (x,y,u,v) for complex > functions. The positions are initiated by the six angle controls for > coordinate plane rotations (or four angle controls for "spherical" > coordinate rotations). Okay. I see. Thanks. >> To be quite honest, 4d kind of freaks me out a little bit... If 3d is >> comprised of infinite 2d planes, then 4d is comprised of infinite 3d >> planes... > > Yes, 3D-manifolds aren't much indicated for visualisation of course. > It's all about *surfaces and edges*: > Pure surfaces and their parameter curves as for complex functions. > Or border edges of border surfaces, of (border) volumes of 4D-volumes, > as for the tesseract. > If you want 3D-volumes in 4D, that's another pair of sleeves (as we say > in Dutch:-). Yeah. That's an interesting one for sure. So, a 3d volume would be one 3d plane out of the infinity of them in the 4'th dimension? Humm... Btw, I have created a lot of 3d volumes. Even in DICOM format. They are all good candidates for holograms... :^) Check these out if you can get to the link: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/n2nMhW5G2PhRzyfx They can all be 3d printed. Humm... Sometimes I think that a 3d "observer" would only be able to see 2d. As in a 3d scene projected onto a 2d plane with lights and shadows, ect... However, a 4d observer would be able to see in pure 3d. Make any sense? Thanks.