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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile,comp.mobile.ipad,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Does Apple normally add the UK when the EU forces Apple to care about its customers? Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:30:29 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vc7ckl$2b3vc$1@dont-email.me> References: <vc1pl8$6df$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vc1s1i$vfjd$1@dont-email.me> <vc1sc4$vifb$1@dont-email.me> <lklmn5Fu57cU1@mid.individual.net> <vc496k$1hflv$1@dont-email.me> <xWhFO.50886$WtV9.5280@fx10.iad> <lnlFO.389763$grz1.214193@usenetxs.com> <vc4udn$8cdv$1@matrix.hispagatos.org> <vc60hd$21ne2$1@dont-email.me> <vc6rk8$27cs1$1@dont-email.me> <vc6tg1$27v6c$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 21:30:30 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3ef58deafb6990639f922cdbbbea51db"; logging-data="2461676"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+iaEodjau2OXAwCnVe6zPM3s67FI+EHj0=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pI4uLgXpcIsQs3RDsc0a99Yx2sU= sha1:M5XBIfzva4yC8tVUwy3sqjc32iU= Bytes: 4238 Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> wrote: >>>> Apple should be able to make any connector it wants to make. >>>> Even one which is designed specifically to prevent interaction. >>>> >>>> If people would just stick only to Apple products, they'd be fine >>>> as there's no need for interoperability if you buy only Apple product. >>>> >>>> As Tim Cook openly said, "Buy your mom an iPhone" if you want your device >>>> to work with another company's products. It's all Apple around here. >>>> >>>> So it shouldn't matter if nobody else uses Apple's connector. >>>> It's a free and openly competitive world market, isn't it? >>>> >>> >>> Thing is, Apple didn’t even have inter operability between its own >>> products. >> >> Agree. And I've said this before on here. >> >> Apple didn't transition to USB-C from USB-A well or consistently. When Macs >> lost USB-A ports phones should have gone the same way shortly after. >> >> What happened instead is that Apple bundled phones with USB-A - lightning >> charges for years without an ability to charge your phone with your Mac. In >> all that time they sold billions of phones with USB-A chargers. >> >> Then, when they transitioned to USB-C, only at one end of the cable, they >> also removed the charger (apart from ones model). So forced everyone to buy >> chargers. >> >>> MacBooks have had USB-C for years (you can’t push enough power >>> through a Lightning connector) So you couldn’t use your Mac charger to >>> charge your Lightning connector iPhone or iPad or ear phones. Now you can. >>> I’d understand reluctance to move to usb-c if there were any significant >>> technical downsides, but I can’t see any. It supports a wider range of >>> charge voltages than Lightning, has a more robust connector, (though some >>> disagree about this) and supports a much wider range of protocols including >>> high speed video. Lightning was a much better technical and mechanical >>> solution than micro USB, but it is now technically and commercially >>> obsolete. >> >> Agree. Lightning should have died 3-4 years ago. >> >> > I wonder if Covid and the semi conductor shortage had anything to do with > Lightning hanging on longer than it should? All manufacturers in all > electronics sectors had supply problems, mainly with the dull low value > devices - such as usb and power supervisory chips. As Apple had a monopoly > with Lightning in phones perhaps they had fewer problems getting hold of > these parts. Just speculating. I guess that's possible. Not sure why lightning parts would be more sourceable than the more ubiquitous USB, though?