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From: Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Does Apple normally add the UK when the EU forces Apple
 to care about its customers?
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:39:24 -0000 (UTC)
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Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> wrote:
>>>>> Apple should be able to make any connector it wants to make.
>>>>> Even one which is designed specifically to prevent interaction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If people would just stick only to Apple products, they'd be fine
>>>>> as there's no need for interoperability if you buy only Apple product.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As Tim Cook openly said, "Buy your mom an iPhone" if you want your device 
>>>>> to work with another company's products. It's all Apple around here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So it shouldn't matter if nobody else uses Apple's connector.
>>>>> It's a free and openly competitive world market, isn't it?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thing is, Apple didn’t even have inter operability between its own
>>>> products. 
>>> 
>>> Agree. And I've said this before on here. 
>>> 
>>> Apple didn't transition to USB-C from USB-A well or consistently. When Macs
>>> lost USB-A ports phones should have gone the same way shortly after. 
>>> 
>>> What happened instead is that Apple bundled phones with USB-A - lightning
>>> charges for years without an ability to charge your phone with your Mac. In
>>> all that time they sold billions of phones with USB-A chargers. 
>>> 
>>> Then, when they transitioned to USB-C, only at one end of the cable, they
>>> also removed the charger (apart from ones model). So forced everyone to buy
>>> chargers. 
>>> 
>>>> MacBooks have had USB-C for years (you can’t push enough power
>>>> through a Lightning connector) So you couldn’t use your Mac charger to
>>>> charge your Lightning connector iPhone or iPad or ear phones. Now you can.
>>>> I’d understand reluctance to move to usb-c if there were any significant
>>>> technical downsides, but I can’t see any. It supports a wider range of
>>>> charge voltages than Lightning, has a more robust connector, (though some
>>>> disagree about this) and supports a much wider range of protocols including
>>>> high speed video. Lightning was a much better technical and mechanical
>>>> solution than micro USB, but it is now technically and commercially
>>>> obsolete. 
>>> 
>>> Agree. Lightning should have died 3-4 years ago. 
>>> 
>>> 
>> I wonder if Covid and the semi conductor shortage had anything to do with
>> Lightning hanging on longer than it should? All manufacturers in all
>> electronics sectors had supply problems, mainly with the dull low value
>> devices - such as usb and power supervisory chips. As Apple had a monopoly
>> with Lightning in phones perhaps they had fewer problems getting hold of
>> these parts. Just speculating. 
> 
> I guess that's possible. Not sure why lightning parts would be more
> sourceable than the more ubiquitous USB, though?
> 
> 

Existing monopoly supply contracts and nobody else competing for those
parts?