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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 10:09:47 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <vc8p4a$2nhng$2@dont-email.me> References: <vc6qlc$275or$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 10:09:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="189e15fcec50cfa3d7cb755b6954aeb8"; logging-data="2868976"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/EwAtqp4fJmKQFw32RAJCJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:YuKm3YDogglIw/gj5yzaLaKlhhQ= In-Reply-To: <vc6qlc$275or$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 1868 Op 15.sep.2024 om 16:23 schreef olcott: > > Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof > D(D) correctly reports its own halt status > > https://www.researchgate.net/ > publication/364302709_Rebutting_the_Sipser_Halting_Problem_Proof > The simulation invariant is that H fails to reach the relevant part of the simulation. It stops the simulation and never sees how the simulated H aborts and therefore never reaches the 'pathological' part of D (lines 7 and 8). This is due to the bug in H, that decides that there is an infinite recursion when it sees only a finite recursion. Although it is programmed to see the 'special condition' to abort and halt the simulation, it does not realise that the simulated H is also programmed to see this 'special condition' to abort and halt the simulation. H cannot possibly simulate itself correctly up to the end.