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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: tricyclist shot
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 10:29:17 -0400
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On 9/15/2024 11:07 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 14:41:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/14/2024 10:03 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 18:30:16 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:50:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/14/2024 11:42 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2024/09/13/us-news/cyclist-75-stuck-in-face-by-stray-
>>>>>> bullet-on-nyc-street/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fortunately NY laws kept the victim from returning fire, else it could
>>>>>> have been a tragedy for the hapless juveniles, damaged by society's
>>>>>> failures.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what happens if you saturate society with guns.
>>>>
>>>> 	According to the article, all of the criminals were teens.
>>>> It's probably easier to buy a stolen gun that a bottle of beer.
>>>>>
>>>>> But gosh, no "good guy with a gun" was able to stop the shooting? How
>>>>> can that be?
>>>>
>>>> 	I'm glad the laws kept him from returning fire. Imagine a 75
>>>> year old with blood clouding his eyesight emptying a 15 round magazine
>>>> into what he "thought" were the "bad guys".
>>>
>>> Well (:-) my grandfather well into his 70's, and maybe 80's, was still
>>> hunting and using 1 bullet for 1 deer.
>>
>> Gosh! He didn't need a 30 round magazine and the ability to empty it
>> into his prey within a minute?
> 
> I've told and Andrew have told you over and over but you just don't
> listed.
> So SEE BLOW for lists of firearms with exactly the same rate of fire
> as the dreaded AR.
> Do try to be a bit more rational in future posts.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semi-automatic_rifles
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semi-automatic_pistols
> 
> As for those huge AR magazines see any "magazine shop" as they
> certainly supply 5 and 10 round magazines.

To summarize:

My point was, by your description, your grandfather did not need to fire 
30 rounds rapidly to take down a deer. IOW, that capability isn't needed 
for legitimate deer hunting.

Your attempted rebuttal: "Lots of guns fire rapidly."

How do you not see that your point does not rebut mine?

-- 
- Frank Krygowski