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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: OT Rant About Christians. Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 11:53:34 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <vc9k9u$2u27o$1@dont-email.me> References: <10ppbjh8666vva4reo4jn6vtd7sm9k5hno@4ax.com> <v9jkhg$lr5i$1@dont-email.me> <v9mib6$1a8tp$1@dont-email.me> <v9mn2n$1aoa2$1@dont-email.me> <li91huF75kfU1@mid.individual.net> <pbsubjlkuvmou7mb7e2g0gfao4cl8spjm1@4ax.com> <v9os2o$1karp$1@dont-email.me> <v9pa3s$1ppt9$1@dont-email.me> <2aj1cjliu49jpk94ktuqa649go3qqs2m05@4ax.com> <va6h16$9366$2@dont-email.me> <8qnecj10bl9h7p7gh0c25ud6kmcugauodd@4ax.com> <vbf2ml$rids$1@dont-email.me> <ksamdj9momj04s3taml13c6q1qqbb9d7rf@4ax.com> <rufeejhv6mjml6vvctk94hcutqtmju3cfo@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:53:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ca8045374a12c92b780bce5d8114f23f"; logging-data="3082488"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+r4Cavvnd5x+uw05XtMt5BI20Ypxn+1D4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GPGlDZlc/Gci4sDUOrNNA9/mceo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <rufeejhv6mjml6vvctk94hcutqtmju3cfo@4ax.com> Bytes: 3400 On 9/15/2024 4:15 PM, The Horny Goat wrote: > On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 09:28:58 -0700, Paul S Person > <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: > >> On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 09:13:41 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper" >> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 22/08/2024 11.03, Paul S Person wrote: >>> >>>> IOW, it can be argued that it is not the /Christian's/ Christmas that >>>> is commercialized. Which is why it is more commonly called "the >>>> Holiday Season", and starts (at latest) the day after Thanksgiving and >>>> extends to (at earliest) New Year's Day. That is to say, I don't think >>>> it's been extended to the day after Halloween or Epiphany. Yet. >>> >>> The Christmas season runs to Epiphany. >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Days_of_Christmas. >> >> The religious one (and its cultural attachments) does, to be sure. >> That is why each year I listen to one movement of JS Bach's Christmas >> Oratorio on as close to the proper day as possible, and then take down >> my decorations (which went up on Christmas eve). > > In our family we usually got our tree up about a week before (though > last year only on Christmas Eve) but the twelveth day is when we were > taught the tree was SUPPOSED to come down. Our couch is right next to > the tree's normal location so we didn't but decorations on one side of > the tree to prevent the cat knocking the ornaments down...since kitty > normally sits on that arm of the chair the rest of the year. Back when we had little kids, we'd get an 8+ foot real tree. When the kids got older, we switched to an 8 foot artificial, and now they're grown and out of the house, cut down to a 3 foot artificial on a table. Last Christmas, my younger daughter came home and insisted on re-erecting the 8 footer. Of course, she did not take responsibility for putting the decoration away. pt