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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: gun carrry on bikes Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:08:58 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 60 Message-ID: <vca38p$31h84$1@dont-email.me> References: <jL_EO.385225$grz1.291350@fx03.ams4> <vc1urd$vige$2@dont-email.me> <1r%EO.304287$kpic.194284@fx15.ams4> <7g19ejd7f87rbnjhp7o81fm27vb7v5vv07@4ax.com> <HG0FO.731584$azJ4.425506@fx16.ams4> <l269ejl2qv33b902c7f1lir48biu8d6rl7@4ax.com> <BacFO.733442$azJ4.36608@fx16.ams4> <vc45tj$1gaju$5@dont-email.me> <vc4sn4$1li1o$3@dont-email.me> <vc6usg$27805$2@dont-email.me> <IZEFO.75551$4J12.6936@fx12.ams4> <vc77pv$29vut$1@dont-email.me> <zwGFO.171043$b6j.58009@fx11.ams4> <t16fej508hbiktljt4pvfqmkar3747qcdf@4ax.com> <IOTFO.80168$4J12.65986@fx12.ams4> <vc9f32$2sq9d$1@dont-email.me> <vc9iae$2tntl$1@dont-email.me> <vc9sql$304ao$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 22:08:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c9ab8ccb59e5a8447dd559b684e63e2"; logging-data="3196164"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+I19cwH0g5Hdo765AAPuSA" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8snpuTE85F/i8Mdy4Z7H4bBM0HY= In-Reply-To: <vc9sql$304ao$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3781 On 9/16/2024 1:19 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 9/16/2024 11:19 AM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 9/16/2024 9:24 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 9/16/2024 6:32 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>> John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don't ember where but I think I read that if a Royal >>>>> Navy ship >>>>> captured a slave ship the Slaver Ship would be (by the >>>>> Navy) and money >>>>> credited to the officers and Crew of the capturing ship. >>>> >>>> after legal abolition may well have been a bounty, pre >>>> that no as the >>>> political classes and so on where pro it or at least not >>>> pro ships >>>> capturing other nations ships and causing diplomatic >>>> tensions! >>> Forgive a slightly off-topic question, but: >>> >>> Early America had lots of slavery. It was critical to the >>> economy of America's southern states, and eventually >>> caused our Civil War. Because of that (and other factors) >>> there's much current American discussion of the horrors >>> of slavery. >>> >>> But many, many societies had slavery, including the >>> British Empire. I've tried to ask how slavery is >>> currently discussed in other such countries. IIRC I've >>> never gotten a good answer. In at least one prominent >>> case, I was accused of condoning slavery by merely asking >>> my question - an astonishing logical disconnect. >>> >>> So Roger, how much is Britain's past association with >>> slavery currently discussed? What are the attitudes? >>> >>> >> >> I've noticed that as well. >> The loudest voices denouncing our past are amazingly >> silent on current events; slavery in the Gulf, Sudan, >> Nigeria, minors all across USA and so on. >> >> https://data.traffickinginstitute.org/ > > Right. And people are comfortable talking about the glories > of ancient Rome and Greece without emphasizing that their > societies could not have run well without slavery, which was > probably universal back then. > > Again, my remarks do not mean I approve of slavery! > Understood. It's universal to all cultures until William Wilberforce. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971