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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 09:51:37 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vcb8tp$3cvpf$1@dont-email.me> References: <vc6qlc$275or$1@dont-email.me> <vc8ot9$2o1f3$1@dont-email.me> <vc96q0$2qm11$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 08:51:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5f858832c21fe79025b1442dcd26ba83"; logging-data="3571503"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19lP8nsVMIrSdnfC/X+ZJtt" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:5KVIjW1MlMUXns/ikEWEwL8HLew= Bytes: 2101 On 2024-09-16 12:03:12 +0000, olcott said: > On 9/16/2024 3:06 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-09-15 14:23:38 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof >>> D(D) correctly reports its own halt status >>> >>> https://www.researchgate.net/ >>> publication/364302709_Rebutting_the_Sipser_Halting_Problem_Proof >> >> That article does not prove its claim and therefore does not constiture >> a refutation of anything. >> >> The text agreed by Sipser is shown twice: first in the beginnig of >> the article and again in the beginnig of the Appendix. >> >> There are two execution traces: one on pare 3, another in the Appendix. >> The relation between them is not explained. More generally, the roloe >> or the purpose of the Appendix is not clear. >> > > You have to actually carefully study the words. Which words? > There are not two execution traces. > > One shows the execution trace of D emulated by H: > The essence of the halt status decision. > > The other one shows the trace of the whole > program including the trace of D emulated by H. That is not said in the Appendix. -- Mikko