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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: DRAM accommodations Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 00:04:09 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vcc28s$3hn5f$1@dont-email.me> References: <vbdcrs$gp01$1@dont-email.me> <VLfGO.187084$QvZa.39165@fx08.ams4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 16:04:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dfb7198bb0571c23a804f0b484a23014"; logging-data="3726511"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19LYhoHoJlm3ruwW/fb1PSzbqRji7pvcX4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GwRO/yzIV8DvSYoFW+FOEOmx+yw= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 240917-2, 17/9/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <VLfGO.187084$QvZa.39165@fx08.ams4> Bytes: 2082 On 17/09/2024 11:47 pm, Chris Jones wrote: > On 6/09/2024 8:54 am, Don Y wrote: >> Given the high rate of memory errors in DRAM, what steps >> are folks taking to mitigate the effects of these? >> >> Or, is ignorance truly bliss? <frown> >> > > Do we know whether DRAM chips implement ECC internally? It seems an > obvious thing for them to do. Of course it wouldn't help with bad solder > joints on the DIMM, but it would help with many kinds of faults on the > chip. It seems unlikely. The only ECC coding that I got close enough to plan to implement used a 72-bit word to protect 64-bits of the word content. I suppose there might be serial access DRAM chips that would spit out 64-bit words, and they could offer ECC protection inside the chip by adding the 8-bit checksum when the data went in, and using it to correct the output whenever the data was read out. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney