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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 01:27:03 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vcda96$3p3a7$2@dont-email.me> References: <memo.20240913205156.19028s@jgd.cix.co.uk> <vcd3ds$3o6ae$2@dont-email.me> <2935676af968e40e7cad204d40cafdcf@www.novabbs.org> <vcd7pr$3op6a$3@dont-email.me> <a20365f1bdcad769edd9e1f840edb2fe@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 03:27:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="04e690265ee58abf5342f4cc1c20eee2"; logging-data="3968327"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+BZHBCabN9OF8vX1HWdIKg" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KBgzf6bX0pCnxKqjU8hLE1lH/bA= Bytes: 2184 On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 00:57:59 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 0:44:44 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:45:50 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: >> >>> "the CPUs are simply I/O managers to the Inference Engines and GPUs." >> >> That particular Wheel of Reincarnation will never turn that way. >> >> Why? It comes down to RAM. Those addon processors will never have >> access to the sheer quantity of RAM that is available to the CPU. And >> motherboard-based CPU RAM is upgradeable, as well, whereas addon cards >> tend not to offer this option. > > He showed a die figure with 256GB of DRAM stacked 8-deep and 2×4-wide. Was it upgradeable? Or was it soldered in? > ... all the CPU has to > do is program the I/O MMU to allow them to do their own thing, and deal > with the keyboard and mouse activities. That’s not how interactive timesharing worked in the old days, and it certainly won’t be sufficient for interactive work today. You *did* say “servers” though, didh’t you?