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From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups: sci.logic
Subject: scryer prolog is dead, BILAI instead? (Was: USA is shitting its
 pants)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:45:04 +0200
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The biggest flop in logic programming
history, scryer prolog is dead. The poor
thing is a prolog system without garbage

collection, not very useful. So how will
Austria get out of all this?
With 50 PhDs and 10 Postdocs?

"To develop its foundations, BILAI employs a
Bilateral AI approach, effectively combining
sub-symbolic AI (neural networks and machine learning)
with symbolic AI (logic, knowledge representation,
and reasoning) in various ways."

https://www.bilateral-ai.net/jobs/.

LoL

Mild Shock schrieb:
> 
> You know USA has a problem,
> when Oracle enters the race:
> 
> To source the 131,072 GPU Al "supercluster,"
> Larry Ellison, appealed directly to Jensen Huang,
> during a dinner joined by Elon Musk at Nobu.
> "I would describe the dinner as me and Elon
> begging Jensen for GPUs. Please take our money.
> We need you to take more of our money. Please!”
> https://twitter.com/benitoz/status/1834741314740756621
> 
> Meanwhile a contender in Video GenAI
> FLUX.1 from Germany, Hurray! With Open Source:
> 
> OK. Now I'm Scared... AI Better Than Reality
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvMAVWDD-DU
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>
>> The carbon emissions of writing and illustrating
>> are lower for AI than for humans
>> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54271-x
>>
>> Perplexity CEO Aravind Srinivas says that the cost per
>> query in AI models has decreased by 100x in the past
>> 2 years and quality will improve as hallucinations
>> decrease 10x per year
>> https://twitter.com/tsarnick/status/1830045611036721254
>>
>> Disclaimer: Can't verify the later claim... need to find a paper.
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Could be a wake-up call this many participants
>>> already in the commitee, that the whole logic
>>> world was asleep for many years:
>>>
>>> Non-Classical Logics. Theory and Applications XI,
>>> 5-8 September 2024, Lodz (Poland)
>>> https://easychair.org/cfp/NCL24
>>>
>>> Why is Minimal Logic at the core of many things?
>>> Because it is the logic of Curry-Howard isomoprhism
>>> for symple types:
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> Γ ∪ { A } ⊢ A
>>>
>>> Γ ∪ { A } ⊢ B
>>> ----------------
>>> Γ ⊢ A → B
>>>
>>> Γ ⊢ A → B           Δ ⊢ A
>>> ----------------------------
>>> Γ ∪ Δ ⊢ B
>>>
>>> And funny things can happen, especially when people
>>> hallucinate duality or think symmetry is given, for
>>> example in newer inventions such as λμ-calculus,
>>>
>>> but then omg ~~p => p is nevertheless not provable,
>>> because they forgot an inference rule. LoL
>>>
>>> Recommended reading so far:
>>>
>>> Propositional Logics Related to Heyting’s and Johansson’s
>>> February 2008 - Krister Segerberg
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228036664
>>>
>>> The Logic of Church and Curry
>>> Jonathan P. Seldin - 2009
>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/handbook/handbook-of-the-history-of-logic/vol/5/suppl/C 
>>>
>>>
>>> Meanwhile I am going back to my tinkering with my
>>> Prolog system, which even provides a more primitive
>>> logic than minimal logic, pure Prolog is minimal
>>>
>>> logic without embedded implication.
>>
>