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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally
 unsuccessful as an architecture designer?
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 01:19:31 -0000 (UTC)
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 20:37:01 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:

> It appears that Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> said:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:41:50 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:
>>
>>> According to Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid>:
>>>>
>>>> It is true that Microsoft is not (yet) losing money, ...
>>> 
>>> Windows is shrinking but Azure and both commercial and personal Office
>>> are hugely profitable.
>>
>>That’s not disputing anything I said. 
> 
> Microsoft is stupendously profitable.

Take a closer look at what they’re profitable *in*. Microsoft 365 (not 
“Office” any more) is a rentware business. Azure is also a service 
business. And look at Windows itself, with attempts to insert adware/
rentware mechanisms into the OS. So you see this move away from one-off 
products sales towards ongoing payments.

Which is a classic sign of a company trying to squeeze more and more 
revenue out of a stagnant or declining user base.