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From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 09:18:16 +0200
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On 18/09/2024 22:41, John Levine wrote:
> According to David Brown  <david.brown@hesbynett.no>:
>> I think MS has long ago stopped viewing desktop Windows as a cash cow.
>> But it still gets in a lot of money from server versions, as well as
>> server software such as MS SQL server.  (The client access licences for
>> these cost far more than Windows desktop ever did.)  Their main cash
>> cow, I believe, is subscriptions to Office365 and associated software
>> where they have a near-monopoly for business use.  (I expect Azure and
>> everything there also makes money, but it has to compete with other
>> cloud companies.)
> 
> They say that last year, server products and cloud services were $98B,
> Office products and cloud services were $55B
> Windows was $23B
> Games was $22B
> Linkedin was $16B
> Other stuff was about $30B together
> 
> So yes, they're making a lot of money from Windows, but they're making
> more from Azure.  It's competetive but they're surprisingly good at it.
> 

Is the Windows figure here for desktop and server versions?  Does it 
include local applications with one-off costs?  MS (like many big 
companies) regularly mixes around the way they group products for 
accounting and financial reporting purposes.  It makes it hard to 
compare things over time.

They don't get much for desktop Windows licenses that come with new 
PC's, but I guess they get more from business subscription packages.