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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: Exploding pagers
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 20:32:03 +1000
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On 19/09/2024 6:06 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:34:48 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 11:01:07 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-09-18 01:32, john larkin wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 19:03:45 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/17/2024 6:39 PM, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:18:26 -0500, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pagers, even with a cheap LiPo battery that fails, do not explode.
>>>>>>> Somebody built hundreds, maybe thousands, of intentionally
>>>>>>> booby-trapped pagers and then managed to distribute them to a large
>>>>>>> group of targeted individuals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This absolutely screams "state actor" but all of the states that
>>>>>>> would be capable of pulling it off have disavowed any connection, as
>>>>>>> would be expected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Posting is on-topic for s.e.d because these things had to be
>>>>>>> *designed*.
>>>>>>>     Targets can be expected to cross security boundaries so these
>>>>>>>     pagers
>>>>>>> had to look like normal pagers under X-ray, and had to not "smell"
>>>>>>> like explosives.  Putting aside, for sake of discussion, the horror
>>>>>>> of the device itself and the evil necessary to conceive and deploy
>>>>>>> it, one has to on some level, admire the skill required to manage
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's assumed that the Israelis booby-trapped the batch of pagers that
>>>>>> were bought by Hezbollah. Fiendishly clever.
>>>>>
>>>>> They probably got a few militants among the thousands of civilians
>>>>> injured, only credulous Americans would believe there was any kind of
>>>>> highly rigorous methodology as to how they were distributed.
>>>>
>>>> I understand that Hezbollah bought the pagers for their own use for
>>>> secure communications, so Hezbollah people mostly got them.
>>>>
>>>> Collateral damage is to some extent inevitable in war, but the Israelis
>>>> are not terrorists. Hamas and Hezbollah are.
>>>
>>> Israelis invented terrorism when they planted a bomb in the King David
>>> Hotel
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
>>>
>>> But discussing any of that is off topic in this group.
>>
>> The state of Israel only came into being in the first place due to Jewish
>> terrorist groups like Ergun and the Stern Gang. All these groups in the ME
>> on all sides are a giant pain in the arse to everyone else. Hopefully if
>> Trump gets back into the WH he'll let them all just blow themselves to
>> pieces without any US intervention and we'll finally have peace over
>> there.
> 
> The Brits partitioned the area into Jewish and Arab regions, and the
> UN agreed. And then a bunch of Muslim countries attacked Israel. And
> lost.
> 
> They said that the transmissions in Egyptian tanks had one speed
> forward and four in reverse.

Recycled joke from the WW2 Italian campaign.

> It is hard for the muslims to make peace with themselves, much less
> with Israel.

Christians have much the same problem. The hundred years war thinned out 
that
particular gene pool, but it does seem to be built into the religious 
mind-set.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney