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From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please>
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Subject: Re: Exploding pagers
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 23:38:18 +0200
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On 9/19/24 17:30, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:45:22 -0700) it happened john larkin
> <JL@gct.com> wrote in <a4eoejlqa3q0gols8jpedac890a9cg7ok2@4ax.com>:
> 
>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 12:55:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On a sunny day (Wed, 18 Sep 2024 11:01:07 +0200) it happened "Carlos E.R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote in <jfhqrkx4ce.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-09-18 01:32, john larkin wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 19:03:45 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/17/2024 6:39 PM, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:18:26 -0500, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pagers, even with a cheap LiPo battery that fails, do not explode.
>>>>>>>> Somebody built hundreds, maybe thousands, of intentionally booby-trapped
>>>>>>>> pagers and then managed to distribute them to a large group of targeted
>>>>>>>> individuals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This absolutely screams "state actor" but all of the states that would
>>>>>>>> be capable of pulling it off have disavowed any connection, as would be
>>>>>>>> expected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Posting is on-topic for s.e.d because these things had to be *designed*.
>>>>>>>>     Targets can be expected to cross security boundaries so these pagers
>>>>>>>> had to look like normal pagers under X-ray, and had to not "smell" like
>>>>>>>> explosives.  Putting aside, for sake of discussion, the horror of the
>>>>>>>> device itself and the evil necessary to conceive and deploy it, one has
>>>>>>>> to on some level, admire the skill required to manage it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's assumed that the Israelis booby-trapped the batch of pagers that
>>>>>>> were bought by Hezbollah. Fiendishly clever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They probably got a few militants among the thousands of civilians
>>>>>> injured, only credulous Americans would believe there was any kind of
>>>>>> highly rigorous methodology as to how they were distributed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that Hezbollah bought the pagers for their own use for
>>>>> secure communications, so Hezbollah people mostly got them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Collateral damage is to some extent inevitable in war, but the
>>>>> Israelis are not terrorists. Hamas and Hezbollah are.
>>>>
>>>> Israelis invented terrorism when they planted a bomb in the King David Hotel
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
>>>>
>>>> But discussing any of that is off topic in this group.
>>>
>>> US war mongering, and now even the demonrats manipulating the media
>>> to get people to kill the aspiring president of the opposite party,
>>> all to suck the ever poorer US taxpayer to pay for their ever more losses
>>> making war industry...
>>> US at war with itself and making wars in the rest of the world.
>>> Censoring the media, tiktop, RT, others, to just keep their war criminals in control...
>>>
>>> Brain dead evil country.
>>
>> OK, buy someone else's chips and natural gas and food.
> 
> It was the *US* that had youcrane blow up the Russian Northstream pipelines to the rest of Europe.
> Food> from the US? Nothing I eat.
> Why do you think your country has the largest deficit in the world.
> Becaue nobody wants to buy your shit, China is better and cheaper.
> WE have the real chip tech FYI, it scares the US so much they try anything to get us
> not exporting it to for example China.
> The d*mn F35 that our CVA controlled poly-ticsians bought tho rpelace the old F16s
> makes so much noise that there are now groups standing up againt it
> and other example for US crap, a ten year old with a stone can kill it.
> your Ali-Gator electret will detect it miles away, no radar needed to get a slingshot at it.
> 
> 
>> And invite Germany back in to rule your country.
> 
> Well, we are both in the EU and make decisions together with other countries.
> Anyasy I decided some time ago to stop with rapis.
> Posted about that and why here.
> As far as sjips go, raspies are made in the UK FYI.
> 
> China and Korea has most stuff I need, teefee, monitors all Samsung
> Harddisks:Japan
> SDcards: Samsung
> Camaras: Japan and smartphone xiaomi from China
> Lotd of other Chinese stuff, from GPS receivers to Oleds, to LCD⇧s, LEDs, what not.
> Just received a detonation message on my Nokia (also made in Europe) but had removed the
> the 'plosives long ago.
> Was in the kitchen anyways when it happened, phone in the living room,.
> You say you are part German, can you even read or speak German?
> Without Von Braun you 'merricans would never have reached the moon.
> Without Russia neither ,'merricans were just trying to catch up, show off...
> AND on top of that after all the youwish genocide YOU support, makes me think if Hitler had a point.
> Was a program about 'Mein Kampf' here on German TV a few month ago, you can
> get it online it seems.
> 
> It all depends now does it?
> YouAshAAAAAAAH's game is to create wars, use CIA to support rebellion parties, movement, now in Venezuela,
> tensions you create  make utra right getting stronger and stronger.
> You never did win from Germany, it was Russia that did win
> as it did from Nappy,
> YouAshAAAAA was fighting Japanese and when it could not win it used genocide on Japanese citicens
> to make Japan surrender, an ather US war crime as was Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc etc  Youcrane
> If you had any self-respect you would move to your German [square] roots  At least *I* told the CIA to fuck of
> when they asked me.

You know, Jan, if you want your opinion to carry any weight,
you'd better drop the witticisms.

Jeroen Belleman