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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 17:36:47 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <vci5hf$nhvc$2@dont-email.me> References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <cicbejl8f1hppk447ao6jq1n295sj386f1@4ax.com> <pcgeejhh5j013bn1iqo15i5cod7267j15j@4ax.com> <20240915a@crcomp.net> <vc8hcj$2m25s$1@dont-email.me> <20240916a@crcomp.net> <92767bb42bc741f813f2a5a131e0ce5e@www.novabbs.com> <vcd5e0$3ognu$3@dont-email.me> <7mCGO.45460$xO0f.10030@fx48.iad> <ceff4cd0-7f16-0f42-588b-374e89acf00c@example.net> <vcfq1i$8o8k$2@dont-email.me> <49557f097f4606f51f485fc2bbf6e77c@www.novabbs.com> <vci3jv$na6i$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 23:36:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="02f155439c71818c38db0c0cd5d40302"; logging-data="772076"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX191OJemY1O/Lv9KJrINOxaVo8BV+hcrUdk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vmFi7tjxHBH7Ga55/fTLLJ5VBk0= In-Reply-To: <vci3jv$na6i$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3205 On 9/19/2024 5:03 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote: > On 9/19/2024 2:47 PM, quadibloc wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 0:08:18 +0000, Lynn McGuire wrote: >> >>> Chemical saturation limits EVERYTHING but is rarely taken into account. >> >> Given that the proportion of carbon dioxide in the >> atmosphere is measured in parts per million, I had >> not thought of that as an important factor just yet. >> >> If the carbon dioxide level got high enough that it >> was an issue... long before that point was reached, >> global warming would no longer be the most important >> consequence of the CO2 concentration. Instead, the >> toxicity of CO2 would have led to the extinction of >> human life. >> >> John Savard > > There have been extensive studies on the level of CO2 toxicity. > > Some people get a headache at 0.5% (5,000 ppm). Many people get a > headache at 1.0% (10,000 ppm). People start dying at 15% (150,000 ppm). > > The Apollo 13 astronauts were subjected to high CO2 levels, very close > to 15% before the ground crew figured out how to reduce the CO2 content > in the much warmer capsule as the LEM was under -100 F or so. > > It is a fact that the Earth has experienced much higher levels of CO2 in > the far distant past, up to 8,000 ppm. > > If CO2 toxicity was a serious problem, then hydrocarbon (coal, fuel oil > natural gas) power plant workers would be continuously sick as the > stacks emit 10% to 20% CO2 depending on load of the device. Which is part of why they have the stacks in the first place; to get those gases away from the plant. Try sitting at the top of the chimney, with your head in the flow, and tell us how it makes you feel. pt