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On 9/19/2024 8:16 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 9/19/2024 4:36 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> On 9/19/2024 5:03 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 9/19/2024 2:47 PM, quadibloc wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 0:08:18 +0000, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chemical saturation limits EVERYTHING but is rarely taken into 
>>>>> account.
>>>>
>>>> Given that the proportion of carbon dioxide in the
>>>> atmosphere is measured in parts per million, I had
>>>> not thought of that as an important factor just yet.
>>>>
>>>> If the carbon dioxide level got high enough that it
>>>> was an issue... long before that point was reached,
>>>> global warming would no longer be the most important
>>>> consequence of the CO2 concentration. Instead, the
>>>> toxicity of CO2 would have led to the extinction of
>>>> human life.
>>>>
>>>> John Savard
>>>
>>> There have been extensive studies on the level of CO2 toxicity.
>>>
>>> Some people get a headache at 0.5% (5,000 ppm).  Many people get a 
>>> headache at 1.0% (10,000 ppm).  People start dying at 15% (150,000 ppm).
>>>
>>> The Apollo 13 astronauts were subjected to high CO2 levels, very 
>>> close to 15% before the ground crew figured out how to reduce the CO2 
>>> content in the much warmer capsule as the LEM was under -100 F or so.
>>>
>>> It is a fact that the Earth has experienced much higher levels of CO2 
>>> in the far distant past, up to 8,000 ppm.
>>>
>>> If CO2 toxicity was a serious problem, then hydrocarbon (coal, fuel 
>>> oil natural gas) power plant workers would be continuously sick as 
>>> the stacks emit 10% to 20% CO2 depending on load of the device.
>>
>> Which is part of why they have the stacks in the first place; to
>> get those gases away from the plant.
>>
>> Try sitting at the top of the chimney, with your head in the flow,
>> and tell us how it makes you feel.
>>
>> pt
> 
> Been there, done that, got the tshirt, got the coal dust layered on me 
> to about a 1/8th of an inch (it is greasy when ground to face powder). I 
> was a plant engineer for a five unit natural gas / fuel oil 811 MW power 
> plant for three years.  Then I worked on mostly coal supercritical power 
> plants (550 MM and 750 MW) for two years.
> 
> You have not lived until you take a short cut through the back side of a 
> coal boiler firing 6% H2S coal with a two foot by three foot hole in the 
> exhaust gas header discharge from the ID (induced draft) fans blowing 6% 
> SO2 on you at 300 F.

I can see why you switched into software, where the most dangerous fumes
are an undercooled processor releasing its 'magic smoke'.

pt