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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Exploding pagers
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 04:42:29 GMT
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On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:01:53 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote in <vci3g0$mr65$5@dont-email.me>:

>On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 06:37:13 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Sep 2024 15:39:17 -0700) it happened john larkin
>> <jl@650pot.com> wrote in <rv0kejddm69cioik17oeujstlfig16jn4o@4ax.com>:
>> 
>>>On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:18:26 -0500, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Pagers, even with a cheap LiPo battery that fails, do not explode.
>>>>Somebody built hundreds, maybe thousands, of intentionally
>>>>booby-trapped pagers and then managed to distribute them to a large
>>>>group of targeted individuals.
>>>>
>>>>This absolutely screams "state actor" but all of the states that would
>>>>be capable of pulling it off have disavowed any connection, as would be
>>>>expected.
>>>>
>>>>Posting is on-topic for s.e.d because these things had to be
>>>>*designed*.
>>>>  Targets can be expected to cross security boundaries so these pagers
>>>>had to look like normal pagers under X-ray, and had to not "smell" like
>>>>explosives.  Putting aside, for sake of discussion, the horror of the
>>>>device itself and the evil necessary to conceive and deploy it, one has
>>>>to on some level, admire the skill required to manage it.
>>>
>>>It's assumed that the Israelis booby-trapped the batch of pagers that
>>>were bought by Hezbollah. Fiendishly clever.
>>>
>>>I'm surprised that anybody still makes or uses pagers.
>> 
>> They used batteries filled with an explosive that would trigger when
>> temperature rised above some point They could heat your smartphone
>> battery by hacking or even some sucking website or email.
>> So be carefull what batteries you use, same for the equipment you make.
>> Simple heat up test in safety chamber would be a good idea?
>
>Is there such an explosive? High explosives - as it appears were used here 
>- generally need a significant *shock* to set them off. Heat alone isn't 
>normally enough and even if it were, the temp required would have 
>necessitated the rapid discarding of the pager before it got sufficiently 
>hot.

There was more about the chemistry / explosives used in that RT article I posted.
But it looks now the moosrats or whatever they are called had a 
special made version of the pagers (and walking talkers) distributed
to the victims.

You can get good cheap portos via ebay from China..
Looks like there was some agent involved pushing these hacked models.
It is not new, many years ago there was something similar.

I have a Baofeng (70 cm) porto too, ham radio set basically, also from ebay.
Beeper I had, very long time ago....
Radios is simple, can make one in a flash... Back to the fifties...

Its weird, some program was mentioning moon landing by the YouAShAAAA
and id did say: few will have been watching that 50 years ago...
Yea, I was at the head control room relaying it to the people's teefees here...
Am I _really_ that old?
Then next thought was: maybe 50 years from now, just imagine the media crap attention when I am 140 years old...
:-)
Was it the food?
OTOH you could be all alone on a little island with just noise on the radio living
from seaweeds and crab, as the only surviver of world-war <enter your sequence number here>..

Or decomposed and the electrons that once made up your body flying in the universe looking for an attractive place...
All is connected...