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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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On 20/09/2024 6:18 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 14:52:55 -0400, bitrex wrote:
> 
>> On 9/18/2024 1:34 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>
>>> The state of Israel only came into being in the first place due to
>>> Jewish terrorist groups like Ergun and the Stern Gang.

Rubbish. The Jewish migration into Israel started much earlier than 
that. One of my Jewish acquaintances (now dead) spent time in a kibutz 
in Palestine before WW2, though he spent most of WW2 in the UK.

>>> All these groups
>>> in the ME on all sides are a giant pain in the arse to everyone else.

Iran is a much bigger pain in the arse than any of the rest.

>>> Hopefully if Trump gets back into the WH he'll let them all just blow
>>> themselves to pieces without any US intervention and we'll finally have
>>> peace over there.

An Iran-dominated middle east won't be peaceful.

>> Incidentally Trump and Harris hardly discussed foreign policy at the
>> debates at all, there is no novel thinking to be found there.

Americans have never cared much about the rest of the world, except as 
tourist destinations.

>> Outside of the context of Evangelicals and the aforementioned forever
>> war the overwhelming majority of Americans simply don't give a fuck
>> about foreign policy as an election issue, so it's a waste of time for
>> either of them to even think much about it.
> 
> The US devolved foreign policy to Israel a long, long time ago.

It's more that the US Jewish lobby is remarkably influential - not so 
much because they are all that powerful as because they actually care 
what happens to Israel.

> And given
> as you say the average American isn't bothered, it's not something that'll
> merit much air-time in any debate. It'll be all about the Left accusing
> Trump of being callous and uncaring and the Right about tax rises under
> Harris.

Too true. Of course Trump really is callous and uncaring - he's an 
egomaniac, and only cares about himself - and taxes will rise under 
Harris because Trump cut taxes when he was in power in a thoroughly 
irresponsible way, and that will have to be undone.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney