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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Magnetic force Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 04:33:45 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: <vcjmj2$138g4$1@dont-email.me> References: <vcj76j$voh8$1@dont-email.me> <1r06g72.88zc7z53x70gN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:33:55 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c8d2adf65061747df8ac38dfba500272"; logging-data="1155588"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19105oZzBcC9PcMAtlU2x0y" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:LFA8Y4Lp1LVodvAYpLv+IOi4mEk= In-Reply-To: <1r06g72.88zc7z53x70gN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3435 On 9/20/2024 1:57 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >> I suspect the adhering "metal" piece has to be on the skin >> of the device as the magnetic field falls off quickly with >> distance -- diluting the ability of the cable to remain >> EXACTLY where desired. A "decal" over the surface likely >> would be tolerable... > > Would a rounded bump on the device be acceptable? A matching hollow in > the cable end could then locate over it. It would depend on how "rounded" the bump was. And, how tightly the "insert" matched the "equipment" plane. When not "mated", the "bumps" are most often touched (think of them as buttons and indicators when not acting as communication ports). E.g., the emitter normally visibly indicates "status"; "touching" it acts to invoke IDENTIFY/TRAP/RESET/POWER/SHUTDOWN functions. So, the bump makes it easier to find with a fingertip (otherwise, you have to be able to perceive the difference between the glass of the jewel and the material of the case) Oils (and dirt) from hands will want to accumulate on those surfaces. Easily wiping them clean has to remove ALL traces of that crud (because the person cleaning them may not be able to SEE them -- blind/visually impaired -- but, others *will* and would notice how grimey it appears) [Imagine being blind and someone asks to use your toilet... are you ever *sure* that they don't come out totally disgusted by what THEY saw that you *haven't*? <ick>] > Something like this: > http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/Connector.gif That's sort of what I was thinking though I was imagining the magnet on the cable end (because there can be many such ports in close proximity to each other -- 5/8" apart, hence the limit of 1/2" -- but only one cable end). I imagined the bump as being the glass piece with the *detector and emitter* behind it (internal to the "equipment") and an annular ring surrounding/framing the glass jewel. The ring magnet would be on the cable end with an inner diameter just larger than the glass jewel. In the case of an attached *dongle*, there would be a corresponding detector and emitter in the dongle. For a cable, fiber could suffice over short distances (else put the electronics on the end of the cable).