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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:33:04 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: <vck4jg$15j7d$1@dont-email.me> References: <memo.20240913205156.19028s@jgd.cix.co.uk> <vcd7lo$3op6a$2@dont-email.me> <vcdele$293s$1@gal.iecc.com> <vcdstq$3vei1$1@dont-email.me> <vcfdld$525$1@gal.iecc.com> <vcfu73$9bc9$2@dont-email.me> <vcgiq7$fmaa$3@dont-email.me> <87h6ab33p3.fsf@localhost> <f48d31eaa3dda0667eff538fbee3b692@www.novabbs.org> <vcid5u$ov66$6@dont-email.me> <vcjdnf$11em1$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:33:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6aae82ebd1fdfe8835c2743d699a660c"; logging-data="1232109"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+4uReAWqp6GTPEaOyUpjho" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3nCjKcY/JkbwCg4bG4p/RmWhMlU= sha1:lwrSpAvZUqiZGtBCR4k8fZ2cQms= Bytes: 4151 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote: > On 20/09/2024 01:47, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 19:01:34 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: >> >>> In particular, MS has not added anything I want in Office since 2003 and >>> in the OS in particular since 2005. Windows 7 is still better than >>> windows 10 or 11 or 12... >> >> Would you entrust mission-criticial business operations to obsolete, >> unsupported software? >> > > His suggestion was to /continue/ the support and updates for existing > systems, rather than making new ones. > > But would /I/ trust mission-critical business operations to Windows 7 > over Windows 11 ? Well, I wouldn't trust it to anything Windows, but I > certainly trust Windows 7 more than Windows 10 or 11. The more useless > crap added to the system, the more scope it has for failures or security > issues. (The only Windows systems I currently have are Windows 7.) The one hidden gotcha with Windows 7 is that you need to run “Disk Cleanup” yearly to remove the slowdown codes, else your computer will turn into a snail, slow to respond to even keystrokes and mouse movements. Hit the clean system files button and select ALL options. Prepare to be surprised at how fast Windows 7 becomes after cleaning. This applies to all versions of Windows, Microsoft and its vendors want you to upgrade every five years. > I am not sure I can think of anything I want to do on Windows, and which > I can do with Windows 11 that I could not do with Windows 2000 - > excluding running programs that refuse to run on earlier systems without > good reason, or hardware that does not have drivers for older systems. > (In Mitch's dream world where MS continued to support old systems, those > would not be issues.) There are a few things that newer Windows does > better than older ones - it makes better use of more ram and more cores, > for example. > >> Open-source software is more responsive to community needs. > > Absolutely. It is not perfect either, but it is a lot better in many ways. > >> >>> MS would make more money by allowing old OSs to keep running and sent >>> the employees home... >> >> They’re going to charge businesses who want to stick with Windows 10 a >> steadily increasing support fee. Charging lots of money to those who want >> to stick with old versions of your proprietary software sounds like a >> business model with a much more promising future, don’t you think? > > MS can't make a business from supporting old software. While there is a > proportion of more technical people who are happy with "if it ain't > broke, don't fix it", a much larger proportion of potential purchasers > are in the "the latest is greatest" camp.