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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:33:13 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <vckbkp$16ema$1@dont-email.me> References: <20240915a@crcomp.net> <vc8hcj$2m25s$1@dont-email.me> <20240916a@crcomp.net> <92767bb42bc741f813f2a5a131e0ce5e@www.novabbs.com> <vcd5e0$3ognu$3@dont-email.me> <7mCGO.45460$xO0f.10030@fx48.iad> <ceff4cd0-7f16-0f42-588b-374e89acf00c@example.net> <vcfq1i$8o8k$2@dont-email.me> <eef9e921-3ea3-76ee-39de-e34ac66733e4@example.net> <vchd72$jonl$2@dont-email.me> <vche0l$juhv$1@dont-email.me> <vci30n$n4la$2@dont-email.me> <9ef268b5ee180b9b4955f632d5f60aff@www.novabbs.com> <tc5rejhcobu9qn66mmqodljgr7glh9ptiv@4ax.com> <vck6r4$15app$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 19:33:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e353dd43e619ab312eac4e76b5f7f535"; logging-data="1260234"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19sHJi+FZCtOBZh2Ur8eYrUNSMQ3vaJgwE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:6ppXxME1x8C9+cddL6ADOREIsrw= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vck6r4$15app$4@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3679 On 9/20/2024 12:11 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 9/20/24 08:36, Paul S Person wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 04:31:40 +0000, quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 20:53:42 +0000, Lynn McGuire wrote: >>>> On 9/19/2024 9:55 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>> >>>>> And you really don't want to know what we do to Mobious Strip >>>>> Earthers.... >>>> >>>> Oh my goodness, there are really people on the intertubes espousing >>>> that >>>> craziness ! >>> >>> Really? Other than as a joke? I'll have to look into this. But since >>> there are people who believe in a hollow Earth with holes at the poles, >>> I could almost believe there were Klein Bottle-earthers. >> >> A Globe with holes-in-the-poles is an object they can see and feel. >> >> A Moebius strip is something the can see and feel. >> >> On the Great Plains, the Earth sure /looks/ flat. Well, as long as you >> don't raise your eyes up enough to notice the Rockies slowly getting >> higher as you move West. >> >> But a Klein bottle has no physical analogue. So I would be /very/ >> surprised at anyone believing the Earth is a Klein bottle. > > > A Klein bottle is a physical analogue. > Acme Klein Bottle <https://www.kleinbottle.com> > Acme will sell you a very large Klien bottle. > > Just a search will bring you illustrations of the fine art > of the glass blower. > The earth may not be a Klein bottle but the Universe might be one. > Or at least we have no way yet of saying exactly what strange > geometry it follows. And I recall one SF story in a pulp magazine > that discovered the universe was more like a toilet. I can't find any Moebius Strip Earthers, beyond a defunct Reddit sub, but [Hollow Earthers](https://www.vice.com/en/article/a-journey-to-the-centre-of-modern-hollow-earth-theory/) are still around. [Expanding Earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_Earth) is another abandoned theory, recently pushed by the [ObSF] well known late comic artist Neal Adams pt