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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:33:23 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vckt7j$1980f$1@dont-email.me> References: <memo.20240913205156.19028s@jgd.cix.co.uk> <vcd3ds$3o6ae$2@dont-email.me> <2935676af968e40e7cad204d40cafdcf@www.novabbs.org> <2024Sep18.074007@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vcds4i$3vato$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep18.220953@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vcfopr$8glq$3@dont-email.me> <ll232oFs6asU1@mid.individual.net> <vcgr9d$gndp$2@dont-email.me> <vch06v$hq45$1@dont-email.me> <vci30n$n38u$4@dont-email.me> <ll3lmnF5eg1U1@mid.individual.net> <vckq4h$18k7r$5@dont-email.me> <d2bd62444d18cd6ef2d3148b7b9239d8@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 00:33:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9fabd7f027d8f87c91e752d958126e44"; logging-data="1351695"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ycxpJw7xoQCEu69p7Agq4BPP90eD1kZk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Kc7t2kJDrj21coxKdW9CRzfiVcs= In-Reply-To: <d2bd62444d18cd6ef2d3148b7b9239d8@www.novabbs.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2601 On 9/20/2024 3:07 PM, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 21:40:33 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:08:23 +0300, Niklas Holsti wrote: >> >>> If you can back up that claim (that noise in quantum computing comes >>> from "many worlds") ... >> >> No, I’m saying the opposite: the noise comes from the fact that “many >> worlds” is nonsense. > > There are many kinds of noise and the presence of noise is part of > our world with very little needing quantum mechanics to be visible. Is there any activity going on at absolute zero? This kind of makes me think of so-called zero point energy. ;^) > > The Casimir effect measures quantum noise in a <hard> vacuum > caused by virtual particles. > > Then there is a noise of amplification, a noise of sampling, a noise > related to the movement of atoms (heat), Brownian motion, and on and on. > > All of these noise sources will remain even if the many-world > theory collapses and dies (low probability).