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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Upper limit of timing resistor value in a tropical setting Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 02:07:30 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vcl2o3$19sta$1@dont-email.me> References: <vFaHO.92333$lZG8.68980@fx09.ams1> <h74rejt6ug9s86450nm88agdov5v7s22ua@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 02:07:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7389dcb711af247190e334f35a734edf"; logging-data="1373098"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+33XVcJ2PmItOMwVdGRLKx3zqece8RM9k=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/OHISmBMYmfGmGTeAIE0+akFrA0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <h74rejt6ug9s86450nm88agdov5v7s22ua@4ax.com> Bytes: 2529 On 9/20/24 17:17, john larkin wrote: > On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 14:18:26 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Take a typical domestic environment in a tropical region, rather humid >> at times. Assembled board is not conformal coated and some dust is >> expected to seep into the box over the years and settle on the PCB. The >> unit is low voltage and low power with just a few watts dissipated when >> on, and left unpowered for days on end. >> >> An R-C combination is used to set timing of around 1 sec. which is not >> critical (long-term variation of up to 10% is tolerable). If it gets >> very bad, the board can be cleaned but this should not be required as >> regular maintenance. >> >> Under these circumstances, what's the highest timing resistor value >> you'd feel comfortable with? > > Without condensation, literal drops of water on the board, 1 Meg might > be fine. Some attention to the board layout would help... extra > clearances on the critical node, maybe two resistors in series, small > R and giant C, maybe use an RC oscillator and divide down. > > Why not use a uP? An RP2040 is 70 cents in any quantity, and has an > oscillator on-chip. ADCs and temperature sensing too. > an AVRtiny would do the job for ~30cents, and you can get mcus much cheaper than that https://cpldcpu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/3-cent-mcu-1.png