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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The truth about the Lorentz Transformation. Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 12:24:21 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vcm3c5$1i31q$1@dont-email.me> References: <152fdece6d8ad07399662b8718f94e75@www.novabbs.com> <vcb6pi$3cfv6$1@dont-email.me> <e0b4efcea0f04819aa973d2cca93641a@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 11:24:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="162f95f180fd31f71fd7c10d74faa581"; logging-data="1641530"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+DIMP2lKg/xFLvUPFASZ6H" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:u0qXbGKV4BpZwnQZtAOFR5gzbNM= Bytes: 2093 I had written: >> ****************************************************************** >> In reality the Lorentz transformation is a transformation from one >> coordinate system to another. On 2024-09-21 01:07:31 +0000, rhertz said: > But I completely disagree with your comment from above. > > The only, legitimate and not properly recognized MATHEMATICAL > TRANSFORMATION from one coordinate system to another is the one > performed by the great Woldemar Voigt, in 1897, more than a decade > before Lorentz. Lorentz transformations are nearly the same as Voigt transfomations. They both are transformations from one coordinate system to another. At the time the transformations were presented the laws of nature were thought to be invariant under the change of scale (i.e., when all durations and distances are multiplied with the same factor and possibly some other quantities by some powers of the same factor). When the Lorentz group is extended with scale transformations the resulting group contains both Lorentz and Voigt transformations. -- Mikko