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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: CERN cuts ties with Russia , will expel hundreds of scientists by December Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:52:45 GMT Message-ID: <vcm51d$hmvp$1@solani.org> References: <vclqgt$hgbt$1@solani.org> <vcltuj$1h8e9$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:52:45 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="580601"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (Linux-5.15.32-v7l+) Cancel-Lock: sha1:em12/oIekMrf6aeibzvVc5j6MdU= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBACAIA8BKKoxJHOTpH8E7iG1LqsEUg+mTDfrhOlF59KaD0lpd95XiDbekMTb9xoJXiDtXQvik5wNVwBV7 X-Newsreader-location: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (c) 'LIGHTSPEED' off line news reader for the Linux platform NewsFleX homepage: http://www.panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/ and ftp download ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/news/readers/ Bytes: 5838 Lines: 71 On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Sep 2024 17:51:34 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vcltuj$1h8e9$1@dont-email.me>: >On 21/09/2024 4:53 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> CERN cuts ties with Russia, will expel hundreds of scientists by December: >> https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/09/cern-will-expel-hundreds-of-russia-affiliated-scientists-by-december/ >> But Geneva-based organization will retain ties with Joint Institute for Nuclear Research. >> >> So maybe then Russia will get some more usable stuff than CERN ever did >> CERN will still work as bomb shelters though. > >CERN does fundamental rather than applied research - not a distinction >that Jan Panteltje has the wit to understand. Dear slow-man script Please have you creat-tor remove the part that insults every-body doing so would improve your status as a humming bean clone. >Of course the research that lead to the atomic bomb was just as >fundamental, and few people expected that it would be of any practical use. hat did lead to teh a-bomgb was Curie and a room sizd lab and some thinking by Enrico Fermi The Italien Navigator Has Landed: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fermi-produces-the-first-nuclear-chain-reaction All in small labs to start with As to ZERN, WHERE THEY .. Interesting is what RT published today: https://www.rt.com/russia/604397-russia-destructive-countries-list/ if you cannot get RT www.rt.com because it is censored by those that control and limit your freedom try 89.191.237.192 in your browser or put this in /etc/resolv.conf if you run Linux nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 <start quote>: Dissidents from “neoliberal” states can now petition Moscow for residency Russia publishes ‘destructive’ countries list Moscow has listed 47 countries whose “destructive attitudes” contradict Russian values, opening the path to their nationals to seek asylum in Russia if they so choose. President Vladimir Putin signed a decree last month allowing foreigners who share Russia’s traditional values and disagree with the “neoliberal” agenda pushed by their own governments to apply for residency. On Friday, Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin published the list of countries and territories that “implement policies that impose destructive neoliberal ideological attitudes contradicting traditional Russian spiritual and moral values.” The list posted on the Russian government portal includes the following countries and territories: Australia, Austria, Albania, Andorra, the Bahamas, Belgium, Bulgaria, the UK, Germany, Greece, Denmark, Ireland, Iceland, Spain, Italy, Canada, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Micronesia, Monaco, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, South Korea, Romania, San Marino, North Macedonia, Singapore, the US, Taiwan (territory of China), Ukraine, Finland, France, Croatia, Montenegro, the Czech Republic, Switzerland, Sweden, Estonia and Japan. Notably absent from the list are EU and NATO members Slovakia and Hungary, as well as NATO member Türkiye. Most of the designated countries previously made the register of “unfriendly” governments, first compiled in the spring of 2021 and updated in 2022. The states on that blacklist are subject to Russian diplomatic and economic countermeasures based on their hostile conduct. Russia can “offer the world a safe haven for normalcy” by defending traditional values from the “wokeism catastrophe” that has come to dominate the collective West, RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan said on Thursday at the Fourth Eurasian Women’s Forum in St. Petersburg. According to Putin’s edict from August, nationals of “destructive neoliberal” countries are eligible to seek temporary residence in Russia without having to satisfy the standard immigration requirements, such as national quotas, Russian language proficiency, and knowledge of Russian history and laws. The plan appears to have originated at a February symposium in Moscow, when Italian student Irene Cecchini presented the idea of “impatriation” to the Russian president. Cecchini urged Putin to streamline the immigration and naturalization process for foreigners who shared the “cultural, traditional and family values” of Russia, presenting it as a way to help the country overcome a demographic dip. You can share this story on social media: <end quote> So, the rest of ZERN if they are worth anything scientifically, can move to Russia too. :-)