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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andrew <andrew@spam.net> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: iOS 18 and RCS Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 14:54:57 -0000 (UTC) Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <vcmmnv$298b$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <ll7jeiFnbe8U3@mid.individual.net> <vcma06$1j235$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 14:54:57 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="75019"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: PhoNews/3.13.3 (Android/13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fCz+COy9fDNFnH5CrC0oE6Kww/w= sha256:nXqgh8EE2gz20gX2RMlAVF5mi99LsoaHniZ7P3Q/9vc= sha1:2oY6BDQoo2ipoPaULqeRUxcsXT4= sha256:/GKWZz3ZB5KwPMp71NaT8OEjwce8bxzZJ2oQfTgbfJA= Bytes: 3991 Lines: 69 Dave Royal wrote on Sat, 21 Sep 2024 12:17:23 +0100 (GMT+01:00) : > Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message: > >> As far as I know iPhones all upgrade to the latest iOS as soon as it's >> released. >> >> So should they all have v18 now, and be capable of RCS chats (minus >> encryption)? None of my contacts who I know use Apple are showing up as >> RCS capable in Google Messages ... > > My wife has an iphone 14 which is 'up to date' on ios 17.7 > She could opt for ios 18, if she knew and cared, but it's not > automatic - yet. My iphone 8 runs ios 16.7.10. It probably won't > get 17. The main reason iOS always has far more zero-day holes than Android and why iOS is the most exploited mobile operating system on the planet is that Apple only fully supports one release & one release only. Just one release. <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/> <https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases> <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/> So anyone who is stuck with a phone older than the iPhone XS may as well throw it over the next bridge because it's already jam packed with bugs. Bugs which Apple will never fix. *Which iPhone models will get iOS 18* <https://www.zdnet.com/article/every-iphone-model-that-can-be-updated-to-apples-new-ios-18-public-beta-and-which-ones-cant/> iPhone 15 iPhone 15 Plus iPhone 15 Pro iPhone 15 Pro Max iPhone 14 iPhone 14 Plus iPhone 14 Pro iPhone 14 Pro Max iPhone 13 iPhone 13 mini iPhone 13 Pro iPhone 13 Pro Max iPhone 12 iPhone 12 mini iPhone 12 Pro iPhone 12 Pro Max iPhone 11 iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 11 Pro Max iPhone XS iPhone XS Max iPhone XR iPhone SE (2nd generation or later) But even for the few iPhones that are fully supported with iOS 18, there is some bad news because of how nasty Apple is to their own customer base. In addition, because Apple mocks the EU by waiting until the very last moment to implement customer-focused interoperability, the EU finally got fed up & started mandating that Apple begin to care about their customers. <https://www.engadget.com/big-tech/the-eu-gives-apple-six-months-to-make-cross-device-interoperability-easier-140030456.html> This is because Apple has purposefully withheld new features from European users, including Apple Intelligence, iPhone Mirroring on the Mac and SharePlay Screen Sharing. As a result of Apple's anti-consumer stance, the European Commission will tell Apple the measures it has to take for cross-device interoperability and the EU says that Apple is expected to follow their rules this time. <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-19/apple-faces-eu-warning-to-open-up-iphone-operating-system>