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From: Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com>
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Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:40:02 -0700
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On 9/20/24 23:34, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 10:10:20 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> 
>>> You quoted an article that contradicts your basic premise that human
>>> activities do not cause any Global Warming.
>>> I will recommend to the committee that, although D for usually stands
>>> for Deaf or Dumb, you shall be known as D for Dunce, to wear a pointy
>>> cap and sit in a corner away from your keyboard.
>>>
>>
>> Nope, read again. Carefully.
> 
> The trouble with the whole global warming meme is that Earth has
> demonstrably had wide temperature swings going back hundreds of
> millions of years and the present is in fact one of the cooler times.

	Yes the earth has had much hotter and colder times but
only in the last couple of millions of years did homo sapiens evolve
and engage in climate changing activies. farming, irrigation. burning
croplands and woodlands, and finally getting into internal combustion
and fossil fuels.

	Now while we have occupied the Post Ice Age world we have with
farming and the like occupied nearly every available niche where
Homo Sapiens can survive and thrive.  Now a very large part of the
planet is going to become unsurviable due to heat which people are 
already dying from.
	Our unregulated activities have already resulted in a great
extinction event which is going on all the last few hundred years
as people enroached on animals natural habitat.  Our polinating
animals are already under attack by various diseases.
	Tropical animals including some venomous critters will be
moving North.

	

> But most importantly it's established that there are 'tipping points'
> which nobody really knows for sure where they are so even if climate
> swings are 95% natural, that 5% portion from human activity COULD push
> it over the edge.

	I think human activity will be contribuing more than 5%. The
methane leaks in Southern California were running wild not too long
ago. The responsible parties refused to cap them so human activity
is more than driving and sailing but it pushes further releases from
thawing permafrost of Methane. The heat is already adding water vapor
from the oceans to the warming trend so the hotter it gets the hotter
it will get. Life will become very hard for humans evolved in the
Ice Age.
> 
> (And this works in both directions - in the 80s we were more worried
> about cooling rather than warming. I'm sure I'm not the only one here
> who remembers all the talk of "nuclear winter")

	That was a speciality of the Hurst papers as early as the 1940s.
But they also reported the long term droughts patterns in the Califonia
area when science supporting that was discovered.

	bliss

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