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From: Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com>
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Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 10:32:43 -0700
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On 9/21/24 02:36, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> 
>> On 9/20/2024 12:21 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 9/19/24 14:10, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 9/19/2024 2:34 PM, quadibloc wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:12:55 +0000, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea what you mean here when you say 'typical Americans',
>>>>>> as opposed those polled.
>>>>>
>>>>> I reveal what I meant when I noted that the other ones could easily be
>>>>> prevented from voting by the guys with the white hoods.
>>>>>
>>>>> I quoted the figures from an Angus Reid poll which split out the 
>>>>> voting
>>>>> preferences of _white_ Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although this is because Trump has strong rural support, and rural 
>>>>> areas
>>>>> are overwhelmingly white, I expect better from white America.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Savard
>>>>
>>>> You are Canadian, we ignore your expectations here in the USA.  Just 
>>>> like every other country in the world.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>
>>>      Indeed as a white American I too am disappointed to learn
>>> of how many of us are dumb as door-nails. But I blame it all on
>>> former President Rutherford B.Hayes, who in order to claim the
>>> presidency pulled the Union Occupation forces out of the South.
>>> This of course led to the end of the Era of Reconstruction and
>>> the rise of the Black Codes which made it necessary for black
>>> people to be employed by white men or be condemned to manual
>>> labor for the county. Enforced by the Patrollers which amounted
>>> to every white layabout.
>>>
>>>      I was also disappointed to learn that the great Republic
>>> of Texas was founded with a stipulation in the Constitution that
>>> only black slaves would be allowed in this new nation. Knowing
>>> that though it is remarkable how many great free black people
>>> have emerged from Texas. I will only cite Willie Brown who was
>>> the leader in the State of California Legislature for many years
>>> and the Mayor of San Francisco. This sort of racist thought
>>> led to the foundation of Oregon and maybe a few other states.
>>>
>>>      It is no wonder that Mr.McGuire is resistant to the idea
>>> that burning the millions of years of stored carbon is the cause
>>> of global warming.  Carbon dioxide is not poisonous per se unless
>>> you are at the bottom of an enclosed space and the Carbon Dioxide
>>> is displacing, due to the weight of the compound, the Oxygen that
>>> you need to survive.  It is however as mentioned endless times
>>> a greenhouse gas and is contributing to Global Warming and to
>>> of course the resultant weird and dangerous weather.
>>>
>>>      Carbon monoxide is the deadly gas which combines with
>>> the hemoglobin in your bloodstream to smother you as it excludes
>>> the amount of oxygen from your bloodstream that you need to live.
>>> I would worry more about the CO coming out of a stack than the
>>> COO, of course that is contributing to the warming. And the
>>> heated gases might just melt your face.
>>>
>>>      I don't know if the world will continue to support complex
>>> life in the future when the temperature is enough to boil brains.
>>> Maybe though the most horrid conditions will be confined to only
>>> most of the world and there may be oasis-es where complex life
>>> can continue until relief after the next Ice Age.
>>>
>>>      bliss
>>
>> If you have CO coming out of your stack then you have a problem.  CO 
>> is a sign of incomplete combustion, a dangerous and potentially 
>> explosive condition.
>>
>> Somebody here came up with a paper calculating the excess heat of the 
>> earth caused by humans for the next three centuries using the powers 
>> law.  Now that might happen.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>>
> 
> Let me also add that there is zero risk of any brain boiling 
> temperatures on the earht due to CO2.
> 
> Note that historically, the maximum amount of CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere 
> historically was approximately 3,000 to 9,000 ppm. Today we are at an 
> estimate of 419.3 ppm.
> 
> Life existed happily, and the planet was covered in vegetation when the 
> CO2 level was 7x to 21x higher than today, so at least there is no need 
> to fear any brain boiling. =)

	People are already dying of extreme temperature.
COO levels may have triggered the warming but the future warming is
from methane levels released from it clathrate forms by warming
in thee Northern permafrost and from the warming sea beds.
Also remember the warming puts more water vapor into the atmosphere
to come down somewhere else but the water vapor is a warming agent.

	All those times when the COO levels were higher were
prehuman. The life that existed then is different from the
life that now exists.  The plant life that existed in the carboniferous
era was turned into coal and into the crudest of oils by the processes
of decomposition, pressure and time.

	bliss

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