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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 21:01:23 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vco4qj$21dsm$2@dont-email.me> References: <memo.20240913205156.19028s@jgd.cix.co.uk> <vcd3ds$3o6ae$2@dont-email.me> <2935676af968e40e7cad204d40cafdcf@www.novabbs.org> <2024Sep18.074007@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vcds4i$3vato$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep18.220953@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vcfopr$8glq$3@dont-email.me> <ll232oFs6asU1@mid.individual.net> <vcgr9d$gndp$2@dont-email.me> <vch06v$hq45$1@dont-email.me> <vci30n$n38u$4@dont-email.me> <ll3lmnF5eg1U1@mid.individual.net> <vckq4h$18k7r$5@dont-email.me> <d2bd62444d18cd6ef2d3148b7b9239d8@www.novabbs.org> <vckt7j$1980f$1@dont-email.me> <vclvon$1hf82$5@dont-email.me> <vcnb6c$1nlod$4@dont-email.me> <vcnmd0$1p6a3$6@dont-email.me> <vcnnfi$1p6ct$3@dont-email.me> <3b1e2437e41da3d8303716564eb2dbe5@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 06:01:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0029950ff4e92ba21a7d99fa35b943c5"; logging-data="2144150"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18RJo/2oRjL0xCba1VLjOhhwBiu7AKScQ8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3TtIq5VIbkk67tsw2oILjYp8kD4= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <3b1e2437e41da3d8303716564eb2dbe5@www.novabbs.org> Bytes: 2842 On 9/21/2024 6:29 PM, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 0:13:38 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 9/21/2024 4:55 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 13:43:55 -0700, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/21/2024 1:22 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:33:23 -0700, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there any activity going on at absolute zero? >>>>> >>>>> No, because the Third Law of Thermodynamics says you can’t get there >>>>> anyway. >>>> >>>> How close can one get? >>> >>> Arbitrarily close. I heard of experiments already being done in the >>> microkelvin range. >> >> Odd. So absolute zero is the "limit" and we can get arbitrarily close to >> it? Kind of reminds me of the infinity in the unit fractions. Say they >> are signed for a moment... ;^) > > Temperature is an unsigned quantity. Can we ever get to pure zero? No "residue" so to speak? > >>> >>> Correction: just checked, and the Guinness World Record site reports a >>> figure of 38pK.