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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 17:40:21 -0000 (UTC), Brett wrote:

> I did not criticize quantum effects, I criticized quantum mechanics
> which is dumbshit SWAG that hides the truth of what is happening behind
> bullshit. With greater understanding we can come up with classical
> explanations ...

No we cannot. Some have hypothesized the existence of “hidden variables” 
which can be used to come up with classical explanations of quantum 
effects. Bell’s Theorem offered a way to test for those, and the tests 
(there have been several of them so far, done in several different ways) 
show that such “hidden variables” cannot exist.