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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: OT: CERN cuts ties with Russia , will expel hundreds of
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 20:37:43 +1000
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On 22/09/2024 5:43 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:30:22 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Sep 2024 22:03:02 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vcmcm4$1j9bp$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> On 21/09/2024 7:52 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Sep 2024 17:51:34 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vcltuj$1h8e9$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21/09/2024 4:53 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>> CERN cuts ties with Russia, will expel hundreds of scientists by December:
>>>>>>     https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/09/cern-will-expel-hundreds-of-russia-affiliated-scientists-by-december/
>>>>>>      But Geneva-based organization will retain ties with Joint Institute for Nuclear Research.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So maybe then Russia will get some more usable stuff than CERN ever did
>>>>>> CERN will still work as bomb shelters though.
>>>>>
>>>>> CERN does fundamental rather than applied research - not a distinction
>>>>> that Jan Panteltje has the wit to understand.
>>>>
>>>> Dear slow-man script
>>>> Please have you creat-tor remove the part that insults every-body
>>>> doing so would improve your status as a humming bean clone.
>>>
>>> I don't insult everybody - I just insult ignorant clowns like you, and
>>> it's incidental to the business of pointing out that they have got stuff
>>> wrong. If you were a slightly less ignorant clown you'd be aware that
>>> copying John Larkin's insults isn't a winning strategy.
>>>
>>>>> Of course the research that lead to the atomic bomb was just as
>>>>> fundamental, and few people expected that it would be of any practical use.
>>>>
>>>> What did lead to the a-bomb was Curie and a room sized lab
>>>> and some thinking by Enrico Fermi.
>>>
>>> That does miss out quite a lot. Lise Meitner was the first to recognise
>>> that fission was going on.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lise_Meitner
>>
>> Some read, lots of politics..
>> The fishicks is interesting though.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>    The Italien Navigator Has Landed:
>>>>     https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fermi-produces-the-first-nuclear-chain-reaction
>>>> All in small labs to start with
>>>
>>> Strictly speaking, Fermi didn't quite get to a self-sustaining chain
>>> reaction in the University of Chicago squash court - which wasn't a
>>> small room - though he did get pretty close, and quite close enough to
>>> justify the next steps.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1
>>>
>>> <snipped nonsense from Russia Today>
>>
>> He who does not want to see is effectively blind.
>> That also goes for bots of course :-)
> 
> Bill prefers sources like Wikipedia, which any damn fool can edit -
> and plenty have.

I do cite Wikipedia a lot, but I do read what I cite before I cite it, 
and if it doesn't line up with all the other stuff I've read I don't 
cite it.

Any damn fool can try to edit a Wikipedia entry, but they have to add 
something useful before the editorial process will let it get through to 
the universally accessible version.

Cursitor Doom does like his nonsense to be thoroughly implausible, and 
Wikipedia doesn't deliver that.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney