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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BGB-Alt <bohannonindustriesllc@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 16:00:22 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vcskt7$2rqt1$1@dont-email.me> References: <20240923105336.0000119b@yahoo.com> <memo.20240923213912.19028R@jgd.cix.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 23:00:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="660fd644dd625a4b4390b873b877805b"; logging-data="3009441"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19sXgJkE8aS18WRMv4Xxt730hucDPFgzyI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZHjQi2vIKsJBvk+xqbinKt0c8ik= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <memo.20240923213912.19028R@jgd.cix.co.uk> Bytes: 1974 On 9/23/2024 3:39 PM, John Dallman wrote: > In article <20240923105336.0000119b@yahoo.com>, already5chosen@yahoo.com > (Michael S) wrote: > >> mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) wrote: >>> When only 1 x86 would fit on a die, it really did not mater >>> much. I was at AMD when they were designing their memory >>> model. > >> Why # of CPU cores on die is of particular importance? > > Because multi-core made multi-processor systems commonplace, and far more > software started using multiple threads. > Though... If one added a scheduling constraint that two threads within a single process could not run at the same time on multiple cores, with each process assigned an affinity to a specific core... Then memory consistency between cores would be less of an issue: Threads would still behave as if there were TSO, on a weak-model CPU... > John