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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> Newsgroups: soc.support.transgendered,alt.atheism.satire Subject: Re: Lack Of Gun Control Helps Manage Red State Trumper Populations Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:41:02 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <vcuiiu$380pa$6@dont-email.me> References: <vcqnju$2icod$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 16:33:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ccc4d40f0cb3a4a0e6ab546e6259ab9b"; logging-data="3408682"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18rcNDSeZJDJAGVGw+qGCMb" Cancel-Lock: sha1:hAqbN8M1Seo6kGgXP2WNaGXDNYo= X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <vcqnju$2icod$5@dont-email.me> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal Bytes: 2533 X-Original-Lines: 2 "Phillip Archer" <X@Y.com> wrote in message news:vcqnju$2icod$5@dont-email.me... > "Of the 300 largest U.S. cities, cities > in states with the strongest gun laws > experienced 19.4 percent fewer total > gun homicides in 2023 than in 2022, > while cities in states with the weakest > gun laws saw only 5.1 percent fewer total > gun homicides." > > https://www.americanprogress.org/article/in-2023-gun-violence-trended-down- > across-the-country/ Yea, but given those cities started with a much higher gun homicide rate.. they are still higher than the cities with a much lower rate that dropped slightly lower. What Phillip Archer posted could also by titled how to lie with numbers. if one areas starts with 300 gun homicides while the other has only 100.. Dropping the 300 by 19.4% still means a lot more murders than the 100 dropped by 5.1% Specifically. 241 gun homicides vs 95 IOW the cites with the strongest gun control could still have 253% more gun homicides than the cities without that gun control. If the numbers were actually lower in the cities with the strict gun control.. you can be sure they would be posting the actual numbers.. instead of playing games by looking at percentages.