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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 11:17:19 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vcul5v$37v5r$6@dont-email.me> References: <vcn277$1minb$1@dont-email.me> <IbWHO.21156$MxR.18519@fx47.iad> <vcpiki$29eeg$1@dont-email.me> <vcpu65$2ausd$2@dont-email.me> <vcqif4$2hoq2$1@dont-email.me> <VEfIO.1095856$azJ4.449168@fx16.ams4> <vcsa02$2q622$1@dont-email.me> <boc3fjlebcqkp6iefao8a13js0nbj8gu50@4ax.com> <hqjIO.327263$hKDf.37988@fx07.ams4> <l2h3fjdkfie6ht4dscca6n3ulq7thv0l0k@4ax.com> <vcsipj$2rfcq$2@dont-email.me> <blm3fj1rj43cu4465m83on9pq3ul18ir0p@4ax.com> <JBwIO.2007723$kpic.1270661@fx15.ams4> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 17:17:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9c65e914804687ac337fb7fda3f4798f"; logging-data="3407035"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/avWSY5AFQ3hZ/GtT7y2BgfddTP0VaU6Q=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:75TN7I7MzECgoyRyBS0eFJNkm6c= In-Reply-To: <JBwIO.2007723$kpic.1270661@fx15.ams4> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2578 On 9/24/2024 6:35 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: > > For most part disks in of themselves, advantages for Pros are mostly not > likely to be race winners. A fast decent with hard braking yes, though even > fast descenders the time you gain isn’t huge though can be enough, and yes > some folks like Tom Pidcock are really quite a bit faster than most. > > This said some such as the sprinters are just as fast if not faster but by > some margin slower up hill. > > But disks have allowed wider tires and shaken up the industry to try new > stuff, hence modern race bikes have 28mm tires and unlike consumers has > serious tall gearing as the average speeds of the Tour and similar have > just kept on climbing. Let's talk about discs enabling wider tires, like 28s. I've run mostly 28 mm tires since about 1975. I'm thinking of moving to 32s soon. I've gone as wide as 37mm on occasion. I don't have disc brakes. I've been able to run those without disc brakes. -- - Frank Krygowski