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From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
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Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 17:28:07 -0000 (UTC)
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David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> schrieb:
> On 24/09/2024 03:00, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:38:40 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> 
>>> (Among thers, he left out turbulence, where we have some understanding,
>>> but do not yet understand the Navier-Stokes equations - one of the
>>> Millenium Problems).
>> 
>> I thought the problem with Navier-Stokes is that it assumes
>> infinitesimally-small particles of fluid, whereas we know that real fluids
>> are made up of atoms and molecules.
>> 
>> Remember how Max Planck solved the black-body problem? He knew all about
>> the previous approach of assuming that matter was made up of little
>> oscillators, and then trying to work out the limiting behaviour as the
>> size of those oscillators approached zero -- that didn’t work. So his
>> breakthrough was in assuming that the oscillators did *not* approach zero
>> in size, but had some minimum nonzero size. Et voilà ... he got a curve
>> that actually matched the known behaviour of radiating bodies. And laid
>> one of the foundation stones of quantum theory in the process.
>> 
>> Seems a similar thing could be done with Navier-Stokes ... ?
>
> Without knowing the history of work on Navier-Stokes, I am /reasonably/ 
> confident that mathematicians have thought about this and tried it.

Quite a few decades ago, when I started my PhD, the group met
at a pub. Also present was one former PhD student, who had his
doctorate but, at the time, no job.

When asked what he was doing, he said he currently was a privat
scholar.  A colleague asked for details, and he said that he
was working on the general solution of the Navier-Stokes equation,
and that he had tried separation of variables, but it didn't work.
We took this as "shut up, I don't want to hear any more questions".

Some time later, I tried to explain that to a medical doctor.
I told here that it was like claiming he was searching for the cure for
cancer, and that he had tried a saline solution, but it didn't work.