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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 15:27:34 -0400
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On 9/24/2024 3:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 14:14:41 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/24/2024 11:42 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>   
>>> I'm always happy to engage in a friendly discussion, but, IMO,
>>> friendly discussions don't involve one person criticizing other
>>> people's and their preferences.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, a friendly discussion would be like someone saying,
>>> "it's interesting that you prefer blah, blah, blah. Can you explain
>>> why you prefer that?"
>>>
>>> When someone tells me or insinuates that I'm wrong, it's no longer a
>>> friendly discussion.
>>
>> You might do well to read some of the archives of this group. There have
>> always been people posting opinions that were factually wrong, and there
>> have always been people pointing out those mistakes. As I've noted
>> earlier, having mistakes pointed out is a necessary part of the process
>> of education.
> 
> That's fine of the person being corrected understands that the
> corrector is qualified to do so and is truly interested in making
> things better. In my opinion, you fall far short of both those
> standards.
> 
>> There are many examples of ideas that were posted frequently, and noted
>> as wrong. Most of them seldom pop up any more - and not only, I think,
>> just because there are fewer posts. I think people actually learned things.
>>
>> Examples of mistaken claims? Chains wear by stretching the metal. Old
>> frames get "soft." Increasing spoke tension makes a wheel more rigid.
>> Tying and soldering spokes makes a wheel stronger. Headsets fail by true
>> brinelling due to impact loads. Hanging a bike by the front wheel makes
>> the spokes stretch... and many more.
>>
>> BTW, what was that stopping distance from 20 mph again?  ;-)
> 
> 20 MPH would be maybe 9/10 feet if I didn't concern myself with
> slamming the chain rings into the ground or doing a face plant on the
> ground in front of the bike. 30 MPH would be a little further. Two
> front brakes work better than one, especially when the rider's weight
> is already more over the front wheels before he applies the brakes.
>   
>>>> How weird to spend so much time in a forum whose very purpose makes you
>>>> angry!
>>>
>>> You seem to be the one whose angry all the time.
>>
>> Sorry, that's just your mistaken impression.
> 
> Why else would you make such a point of berating people who don't do
> as you do?
> 
>>> Your "The "no significant difference" idea baffles a lot of people."
>>> is an example of that.
>>>
>>> Why does that upset you so much?
>>
>> It doesn't upset me. But it's a mistake, and some people actually learn
>> things when they see mistakes corrected.
> 
> It clearly upsets you. You immediately demand that the person who does
> things different than you justify it to you.  Why would you do that if
> it didn't upset you?

The sociopathic narcissist sees it as demanding justification. Normal 
people see it as making conversation - something you're deathly afraid of.

> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman


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