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Subject: Re: The truth about the Lorentz Transformation.
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 10:33:01 +0200
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Le 25/09/2024 à 07:03, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> Am Sonntag000022, 22.09.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Sylvia Else:
>> On 17-Sept-24 11:16 am, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>> In reality, the LT is the difference in time taken for the transverse
>>> and longitudinal beams.
>>> Like with a river current, the longitudinal motion will be delayed more
>>> than the transverse.
>>> This is the difference that should have been detected by the
>>> Michelson-Morley experiment.
>>> As with water that is not flowing, we don't need these equations without
>>> an ether.
>>> Since relativity does not involve an ether, applying the Lorentz
>>> Transformation in this context is nonsensical.
>>
>> If you look for equations that describe a universe in which all 
>> observers measure the same speed for light, then you arrive at the 
>> Lorentz transformation. This is why Einstein and Lorentz ended up in 
>> the same place - they both started with the same premise.
> 
> As far as I can tell, the question was not the speed of light, but 'form 
> invariance' between coordinate systems in motion, which motivated Voigt 
> and Poincare to develop an early form of SRT.
> 
> This was taken by Hendrik Lorentz, who developed on that foundation 
> something, which Poincare named 'Lorentz transform'.
> 
> And I have read, that Poincare didn't like that and also not Einstein's 
> SRT.

You read what? Where?