Warning: mysqli::__construct(): (HY000/1203): User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in D:\Inetpub\vhosts\howardknight.net\al.howardknight.net\includes\artfuncs.php on line 21
Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections
Warning: mysqli::query(): Couldn't fetch mysqli in D:\Inetpub\vhosts\howardknight.net\al.howardknight.net\index.php on line 66
Article <vd0omo$3l9o1$1@dont-email.me>
Deutsch   English   Français   Italiano  
<vd0omo$3l9o1$1@dont-email.me>

View for Bookmarking (what is this?)
Look up another Usenet article

Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity
Subject: Re: The truth about the Lorentz Transformation.
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:29:44 +0200
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 37
Message-ID: <vd0omo$3l9o1$1@dont-email.me>
References: <llaokuF7ikkU1@mid.individual.net> <llhjsaF8lbmU4@mid.individual.net> <vd0hrt$3kaim$2@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:29:45 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2aa9a77cd16e67c8755dabe3d65f4d6b";
	logging-data="3843841"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18JYgNsL2nRxaumB7XIeYRz+A0D+eloSV8="
User-Agent: Unison/2.2
Cancel-Lock: sha1:BdSY2WZbw/G0umKPpIVcLqZZPdo=
Bytes: 2648

On 2024-09-25 08:33:01 +0000, Python said:

> Le 25/09/2024 à 07:03, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>> Am Sonntag000022, 22.09.2024 um 16:41 schrieb Sylvia Else:
>>> On 17-Sept-24 11:16 am, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>> In reality, the LT is the difference in time taken for the transverse
>>>> and longitudinal beams.
>>>> Like with a river current, the longitudinal motion will be delayed more
>>>> than the transverse.
>>>> This is the difference that should have been detected by the
>>>> Michelson-Morley experiment.
>>>> As with water that is not flowing, we don't need these equations without
>>>> an ether.
>>>> Since relativity does not involve an ether, applying the Lorentz
>>>> Transformation in this context is nonsensical.
>>> 
>>> If you look for equations that describe a universe in which all 
>>> observers measure the same speed for light, then you arrive at the 
>>> Lorentz transformation. This is why Einstein and Lorentz ended up in 
>>> the same place - they both started with the same premise.
>> 
>> As far as I can tell, the question was not the speed of light, but 
>> 'form invariance' between coordinate systems in motion, which motivated 
>> Voigt and Poincare to develop an early form of SRT.
>> 
>> This was taken by Hendrik Lorentz, who developed on that foundation 
>> something, which Poincare named 'Lorentz transform'.
>> 
>> And I have read, that Poincare didn't like that and also not Einstein's SRT.
> 
> You read what? Where?

Thomas makes stuff up all the time.

-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots