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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 08:03:35 -0400 Organization: None Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vd0u6o$3lgc3$8@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vcuib9$37rge$5@dont-email.me> <6tDIO.25202$afc4.3071@fx42.iad> <vcva2s$3bcrt$6@dont-email.me> <%8JIO.96320$WtV9.51965@fx10.iad> Reply-To: OFeem1987@teleworm.us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 14:03:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a09c1bcc1da5f9f28fe37194d7780190"; logging-data="3850627"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+8k9YY1c2oCOTXFY/hzVnD" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:i4brL7Svy0La+J+SN/UqNjfPvxw= X-Slrn: Why use anything else? X-Mutt: The most widely-used MUA X-User-Agent: Microsoft Outl00k, Usenet K00k Editions X-Face: 63n<76,LYJQ2m#'5YL#.T95xqyPiG`ffIP70tN+j"(&@6(4l\7uL)2+/-r0)/9SjZ`qw= Njn mr93Xrerx}aQG-Ap5IHn"xe;`5:pp"$RH>Kx_ngWw%c\+6qSg!q"41n2[.N/;Pu6q8?+Poz~e A9? $6_R7cm.l!s8]yfv7x+-FYQ|/k Bytes: 2878 Charlie Gibbs wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > On 2024-09-24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 18:24:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> So does PL/I (or is it PL/1 this week?), which allowed data structures >>> to be declared COBOL-style. >> >> PL/I was IBM’s attempt at a Grand Unification of both “business” and >> “scientific” programming in one language. If you thought C++ programming >> was full of surprises when your program did unexpected things, PL/I >> invented the whole genre of “surprise-ridden programming language”. > > I had to write one PL/I program in a university CS class. I think > I finally got it to work (unlike my single attempt at Algol). > One thing I noticed was that the compiler was a real resource > hog compared to any other language (except for Assembler G, > go figure) - which was a disincentive to use it on my meager > supply of computer centre funny money. In grad school a couple of my professors let me use their accounts, so I never ran out of funny money. Needed that funny money to write my dissertation in the DPS typesetting system on a DEC-10. It was vaguely like runoff/tex system. -- Dismissed. That's a Star Fleet expression for, "Get out." -- Capt. Kathryn Janeway, Star Trek: Voyager, "The Cloud"