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On 9/25/2024 1:35 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 01:27:47 -0400, DFS wrote:
> 
>> And at least 2 former cola Linux advocates - Tattoo Vampire and
>> SMelzzzzz - have abandoned Linux and embraced Apple.  That tells you a
>> lot about how good Apple stuff is.
> 
> Quality of advocates beats quantity any time.
> 
> Ken Thompson, one of the original Bell Labs crew that created Unix, now
> 80 years old, was asked last year what OS he uses, and he replied
> <https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/unix-pioneer-ken-thompson-announces-hes-switching-from-mac-to-linux.88451/>:
> 
>      I have, for most of my life — because I was sort of born into it —
>      run Apple.
> 
>      Now recently, meaning within the last five years, I've become more
>      and more depressed, and what Apple is doing to something that
>      should allow you to work is just atrocious. But they are taking a
>      lot of space and time to do it, so it's okay.
> 
>      And I have come, within the last month or two, to say, even though
>      I've invested, you know, a zillion years in Apple — I'm throwing
>      it away. And I'm going to Linux. To Raspbian in particular.

  > Think about that: one of the original crew that created Unix does not
> see Apple’s current offering as a worthy successor to his pioneering
> work: he prefers Linux instead.


What you should think about is the fact that one of the early Unix 
pioneers didn't primarily run Unix or Linux for most of his life.

"Sort of born into" Apple is bs.  Even if he started with Apple from the 
beginning - mid-to-late 70s - he was already 30-35 years old.  I wish he 
was more specific on what bothers him about Apple.