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Path: ...!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 17:22:54 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <vd1gte$bs7$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vcuib9$37rge$5@dont-email.me> <6tDIO.25202$afc4.3071@fx42.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 17:22:54 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="12167"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vcuib9$37rge$5@dont-email.me> <6tDIO.25202$afc4.3071@fx42.iad> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) Bytes: 2170 Lines: 25 According to Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>: >> If you look at Algol, it really spawned the likes of B, C, and Pascal >> and so on . Its use of local variables being a key feature. They >> completely replaced it. Somewhat but see below. >At the risk of planting flame bait <nudge, nudge>, here in North >America Algol was generally considered the domain of computer >science weenies, while FORTRAN and COBOL were used for applications >in the Real World [tm] (science/engineering and business, respectively). That was certainly my experience. >> COBOL was really a standalone thing. You might say SQL owes it some homage. > >So does PL/I (or is it PL/1 this week?), which allowed data structures >to be declared COBOL-style. C's data structures came from COBOL via PL/I. COBOL had (has) very powerful data structures but weak control structures. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly