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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 21:27:31 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 14 Message-ID: <vd1v82$3r2r4$4@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vcuib9$37rge$5@dont-email.me> <vcvuhh$3hroa$2@dont-email.me> <llhieuF8ej2U2@mid.individual.net> <20240925083451.00003205@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 23:27:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d676190ddbdcb7173a64dc657b0df900"; logging-data="4033380"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+xhJ8lLxqkDxQLvlNSbvio" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ebAJlQxusStiNU0NAIh2WXz+3VA= Bytes: 1952 On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 08:34:51 -0700, John Ames wrote: > That's a marvelous description, although it fails to really capture the > perversity of things like array-size-as-type-distinction; when a man > introduces language features that practically every single third-party > implementor has to provide their own workaround for ... You realize ISO Pascal provided conformant array arguments for this purpose? Also, you realize that Wirth did not see Pascal as the last word in programming languages? That he went on to create others that solved this and other problems in nicer ways? That the fact that the rest of the world remained fixated on Pascal for some reason, was not really his problem?