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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 21:40:31 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <vd200f$cgp$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <6tDIO.25202$afc4.3071@fx42.iad> <vd1gte$bs7$1@gal.iecc.com> <vd1v01$3r2r4$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 21:40:31 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="12825"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <6tDIO.25202$afc4.3071@fx42.iad> <vd1gte$bs7$1@gal.iecc.com> <vd1v01$3r2r4$2@dont-email.me> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) Bytes: 1945 Lines: 20 According to Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>: >On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 17:22:54 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: > >> COBOL had (has) very powerful data structures ... > >No pointers, no typedefs, no dynamic arrays, no array lower bounds other >than 1, no parametric types ... It was 1960. Fortran had arrays of numbers, COBOL had structures including arrays of structures. If your point is that we have figured stuff out in the following 60 years, well, yes, we have. I guess Algol60 had dynamic arrays but no structures which limited how useful they were. And the call-by-name mistake made implementation very painful. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly