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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 21:21:54 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: <vd2cvi$3sm4o$1@dont-email.me> References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <eef9e921-3ea3-76ee-39de-e34ac66733e4@example.net> <vcvu4d$3hnv8$1@dont-email.me> <c0056f49-7df6-41f8-ee4c-8125d5ff0952@example.net> <vd1r38$3qdh1$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 03:21:54 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b69e7aabdd2c93110393b09c09c09c53"; logging-data="4085912"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+yYNCGCqGrQryb6Yl3eRklww20yhd1Vcs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:hSm0/rGSAYVQ/gx5Sx/b/CWh5zc= In-Reply-To: <vd1r38$3qdh1$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3949 On 9/25/2024 4:16 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote: > In article <c0056f49-7df6-41f8-ee4c-8125d5ff0952@example.net>, > D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> Give me an electric car that goes as far (or further) than my gasoline >> car, with a charging time that is equal, at a cost that is equal, and I >> will definitely buy it. > > I think hybrid is, given current technology, a superior > solution. My Prius got right around 50 MPG. With a 10.5 gallon > tank, that's 450 miles before the "low fuel" light lights, and > comfortably 50 miles range beyond that. (I got the "Low Fuel" > light a few miles from home in San Jose, drove back to work in > South San Francisco the next day, and drove to Costco next to > the San Francisco Airport at lunch to refuel. Slightly over > 10 gallons to fill, so I still had a comfortable margin.) > > I drove it for 13 years, no trouble with the battery, sold it > to a friend's son who was going off to college, and it's still > going strong. I tend to drive cars until they drive no more. > > I'm contemplating a plug-in hybrid next time I have to buy a > car. Not nearly the electric range of a full electric, but > plenty for a retired person's trips to the store and whatnot. > And a normal gas car's range on gas for long trips. > I have a 2019 Tesla Model 3 SR+, which is the model with the least range. Claimed range about 220 miles when new, but I never tested it from 100% to zero. The furthest I've ever got on one charge is 192 miles, It claimed to have about 10 left, but I was at my destination. That was a few months ago, and the car had about 90,000 miles on it at that point. That mileage was acquired without commuting; my job went 100% WFH a month after I bought the car, and I've since retired. Living out in a rural area piles on the miles. The range simply isn't an issue most of the time, since I have a home charger, and thus every morning I start out with a 'full tank'. Stopping to charge requires 10-15% of the time of a long road trip, but you don't need to stay with the car as it charges, so you can go use the bathroom, get a snack, etc. With the faster chargers, I'm usually done in 20 minutes. Unless you're really pressed for time, stopping for 20 minutes every 3 hours is a nice break. Charging infrastructure is still building out, and there are areas that require pre-planning, though the routing SW does most of the work. There are still areas I can't reach, but they're pretty wild, such as parts of upstate Maine. Even out there, I can charge anywhere I can use a regular wall plug, but that's agonizingly slow. Many EVs now go 300-400 miles on a charge, so they're getting close to ICE ranges. pt