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On 9/25/24 1:27 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 9/24/2024 7:52 PM, Joel wrote:
> 
>> Apple is just a laughable resource,
>> overpriced, overrated, literally a cult of right-brained people.  As
>> bloated as M$ Winblows is, at least it's not just some funky crapware
>> like macOS (save for the kernel and Darwin).
> 
> 
> For the speed and functionality and software and resale value, I don't 
> think the base Macs and iMacs and Mac Minis are overpriced.  But they 
> kill you on the upgrades.  And some (most?) of their hardware isn't even 
> user-upgradeable, so you DO have to pay out the ass upfront to get 
> decent  memory and storage.
> 
> It's not for the broke, drunk, drugged-up Linux dregs like yourself and 
> D'Oliveiro and Feeb.

Probably need to also include chrisv here too, since he predictably 
protests at length whenever I comment about Linux advocates complaining 
about costs (especially of Apple).


> And at least 2 former cola Linux advocates - Tattoo Vampire and 
> SMelzzzzz - have abandoned Linux and embraced Apple.  That tells you a 
> lot about how good Apple stuff is.
> 
> I'm not averse to a mini system, but I prefer a med-big tower case I can 
> swap parts in and out of, and the amt of great software available for 
> Windows dwarfs that available for Mac and Linux.
>

Small form factor has been Apple's design direction now for over a 
decade.  Mobile makes sense, particularly since laptops have become good 
enough to replace a generic office productivity application desktop.

But it does crimp the home DIYer, particularly those looking/using more 
oomph in their systems who are disinclined from paying the "Apple Tax" 
for higher-than-base hardware.  Of course, as one grows older and things 
aren't as lean, it becomes less painful in reality (vs perception) to 
just fork over the extra bucks.


> Windows FTFW!
> Then Mac
> Then paper and pencil and rubber eraser
> Then Linux
> 

For the cheapskates, Staples.com office supply has a 24 pack box of 
"True Red" brand pencils, pre-sharpened, for just $6:

<https://www.staples.com/tru-red-pre-sharpened-wooden-pencil-2-2mm-2-medium-lead-24-pack-tr58558/product_24424022>


-hh