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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: This is Not America Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:28:54 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vd32fu$38jr$2@dont-email.me> References: <vci4d4$mr65$7@dont-email.me> <vcspt1$2slrc$1@dont-email.me> <vcsrdf$2ssr6$1@dont-email.me> <ofu3fjpl7c5s61mbil7trc2evuf8s504c2@4ax.com> <66f30738$0$3834$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <rp36fjt271ssh1uec49im2hcmvu9d84rj1@4ax.com> <vd0n2t$puc8$1@solani.org> <fhd8fjhe5ja0avcco8vctol65dnjabuano@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 09:29:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d903479c3d4baa19cdcd7d3e1e80ab61"; logging-data="107131"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19rmEbQoSKHSivrZf8Nq+ZzBpsF+6NdbE0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eBJIxYsKjcwUJEzpT0UL34x3dNs= In-Reply-To: <fhd8fjhe5ja0avcco8vctol65dnjabuano@4ax.com> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 240926-0, 26/9/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 3285 On 26/09/2024 2:14 am, john larkin wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:02:05 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> > wrote: > >> Am 24.09.24 um 21:21 schrieb john larkin: >> >>> The real gulag megadeath and starvation Marxists were Lenin, Stalin, >>> Mao, and Castro, not the college-campus party tent crowd. >> >> No, they were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists. > > Once the Marxist Party takes control, you have a selfish and > eventually murderous elite owning and controlling everything. That was Karl Marx's political error, which got him thrown out of the International Socialist movement. His economic ideas were fine, but insisting on the "leading role of the party" in implementing them did indeed lead to tyranny, as Bakunin pointed out back in 1871. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/801264-if-you-took-the-most-ardent-revolutionary-vested-him-in >> Castro was an island monkey without much influence in comparison. > > He sure damaged Cuba. He gave the Cubans a much better medical care system than they had had before, and poor Cubans now probably get medical care than poor Americans. John Larkin thinks like a rich American, and doesn't see that advantage. >> And it's kinda funny how the Left moved Hitler's >> "National-Socialist Worker's Party" to the right, carefully >> avoiding the Socialist part by inventing the word "Nazi", >> which is actually a diminuitiv. > > All government is dynamically unstable. Power enhances power. And democratic institutions damp that instability. Democratic Socialist governments in Europe do a remarkably good job, but right wing American politicians and business-men spend a lot of money on lying propaganda denying this. https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/ John Larkin is a notoriously gullible twit, and has swallowed it all, hook, line and sinker. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney