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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Michael Denton is also getting old
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On 9/25/2024 3:49 PM, RonO wrote:
> Denton is 81 years old, and Wells made it to 82 (died on his birth day).
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Denton
> 
> This wiki is really deficient.  Denton's later books are not even 
> listed.  From my recollection Denton published at least 5 deistic books 
> after his return to ID scam unit of the Discovery Institute, but the 
> other ID perps do not like those books because they want their designer 
> to be an interactive god.
> 
> Denton was one of the original ID perps that started the ID scam unit of 
> the Discovery Institute.  He was a fellow when Dembski and Nelson were 
> some kind of student interns or junior members.  Denton quit the ID scam 
> after the publication of his second book, Nature's Destiny.  The book 
> was not accepted very well by the other ID perps.  Denton had claimed 
> that biological evolution was a fact of nature in the forward to the 
> book, and set up his notions that nature had been set up to run on 
> rollers to unfold into what we have today.  The ID perps even published 
> a roundtable discussion about the book, and Denton had not been invited 
> to the discussion.  My recollection was that the discussion was over all 
> negative, and was likely published in order to make it clear that the ID 
> scam unit of the Discovery Institute did not support Denton's deistic 
> views of the intelligent designer.
> 
> Denton quit the ID scam unit, but he did return after the IDiotic loss 
> in Dover and published more deistic books.  I don't know why he stays 
> because they have not treated him very well.  I put up a post where the 
> another ID perp interviewed Denton and basically made fun of his claim 
> of being an agnostic.  The author claimed that Denton had a "sly 
> twinkle" in his eye when he discussed the probable lie, and noted that 
> Denton admitted that he may only be a back sliding Christian.  Denton 
> always had his own notions of god, and those notions do not sit well 
> with the other ID perps.  Denton seems to have been agnostic about other 
> people's religious beliefs, but the other ID perps do not like Denton's 
> religious beliefs.
> 
> Ron Okimoto
> 

https://www.arn.org/docs/odesign/od192/naturesdestiny192.htm

I found that roundtable discussion at ARN where other ID perp fellows 
expressed their disagreement with Denton's Deistic designer.  They did 
not include Denton in the discussion.  Denton quit the ID scam or his 
fellowship was not renewed after the publication of his second book. 
The fellows were pretty well paid at the time.  Dembski claimed that he 
got paid every year for a while.  REMINE used to claim that he was a 
fellow of the Discovery Institute when he posted to TO.  The Discovery 
Institute did acknowledge that REMINE was a fellow, but he was never 
listed on their web site.  He was a whack job of a Biblical creationist 
who supported the failed scientific creationist claptrap with his fruity 
argument.  Like JTEM he would write about himself as if he were writing 
about someone else.

Ron Okimoto