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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: James <james.e.steward@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Grant Peterson's Thoughts on Disc Brakes Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 11:39:23 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <vd7mpc$ui55$1@dont-email.me> References: <vd1q13$3qd4f$2@dont-email.me> <vd1ra7$3qgnp$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 03:39:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8154b243d005a25f64026da7062ae61b"; logging-data="1001637"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18fBzD1eAmArydxVVGI0Pmv" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:69G4Il+AXHEqVDlnRTxLzXUaL50= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vd1ra7$3qgnp$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2267 On 26/9/24 06:20, AMuzi wrote: > On 9/25/2024 2:58 PM, sms wrote: >> <https://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2016/06/gps-thoughts- >> on-disc-brakes.html> >> >> If I could summarize Petersen's view on disc brakes, it is that >> there's nothing exactly wrong with them, but they aren't the vast and >> remarkable improvement over good rim brakes that the industry has been >> pushing for the last few years. In other words, they don't make bikes >> with rim brakes obsolete, and shouldn't. >> <snip> >> >> In the end of Petersen's blug post, he concludes by saying "Don't dis >> the rim brake. It's beautiful and it works, and today's rim brakes are >> better than ever." >> >> Couldn't agree more. > > I'm OK with most of that. > > But braking force against the hub is the same, AEBE. Any increase is at > the margin, when a disc generates more braking force than a rim brake- a > rare event given rear wheel lift. > > (less fade, less loss from wet/mud etc are not reflected in force at the > hub) > Was there mention that disc brakes don't wear out rims? Having worn out a few pairs of rims from braking, I like that the rims on my gravel bike are unspoiled after 14,000 km so far. -- JS